Large Plants...Small Roots

jaag102882

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Today I just put my babies into flowering... they were in veg for 5 weeks in an aeroponics set up which im still using... the problem(if it is one) is that my plants are between 12-16 inches tall and show no signs of stress or anything... but when i look at the roots they seem to be tiny in comparison... should i be worried? BTW this is my first grow...
 

Palmdiggidy

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pics, strain, nutes, ppm, normaly in my aeroponic cloner i hav roots equally as long if not longer than my plant
 

jaag102882

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i'll have to post pics tom bc my babies are asleep right now... since this is my first grow i decided to just use bag seed... im using the technaflora kit for success... i think the ppm is around 1430... and the pH gets checked about 2-3 times daily and is kept between 6.0-6.5... with the size of my roots im surprised that my plants look as good as they do...
 

cannofbliss

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your pH may be too high as well as your ppm is pretty high as well and it would be advised to not go too much higher... but if they can take it then so far so good i guess...

you should be at anywhere between 300 and 500 as an average to start out for a young plant then latter stages of its life then you can gradually get them higher anywhere from 1000 to 1500 during flowering... also for aero or hydroponics of having 5.4-6.0 as an average pH...

and that general range that can vary due to other atmospheric conditions and the genetics of your plant can also be slightly different than the average... give it a solution mixed in your tank ... try dyna-gro... kln concentrate and add it to your reservoir and see if that helps, but make sure your ppm is not too affected ;)
 

jaag102882

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here are a few pics of my babies... there are four of them... you cant really see the two in the back bc im doing my first grow in the closet... the pic of the roots is from the front two... i was told that it may be root rot... only problem i have w that is that my plants receive a dose of H2O2 every 2-3 days... on top of that i clean my reservoir once sometimes twice a week with bleach... the roots have looked the exact same way for about3-4 weeks now but the babies continue to grow... should i just leave everything as is and hope for the best?


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Destillat

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Wow man those roots are not good. If you're using h2o2 there should be no slime or algae growing in your res. Your roots look fucked. What is the temp of your water? I have nooooo idea why the rest of your plant looks so good. Only a matter of time I guess.
Also, you're using inorganic nutrients right?
 

tokinman

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i wonder if some bleach residue is being left behind and messing with your plants.. i have read of many cleaners to use for hydro setups. bleach has never been mentioned. i could be totally wrong as bleach is a very potent household cleaner. i would never use it near any of my household plants though..
 

jaag102882

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water temp is b/t 70-80... it was this way before bleach... and never had an algae problem... should i scrap or keep them growing...
 

Destillat

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That's way too high! You definitely created a good environment for pathogens. Tings like bleach definitely keep your res under control. But it doesn't help diagnose where the problems are to begin with. First of all, your temps are too high. Optimal pathogen growth is 75 degrees which IMO is the main reason why your roots rotted. You need to keep your water at 65 degrees and introduce a LOT of air bubbles. This is some sort of dwc grow right? air and water temp are incredibly important. That's partly why I use ebb and flow. I can counteract power outages and pump failures by hand if necessary.
 

johny1212

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Wow man those roots are not good. If you're using h2o2 there should be no slime or algae growing in your res. Your roots look fucked. What is the temp of your water? I have nooooo idea why the rest of your plant looks so good. Only a matter of time I guess.
Also, you're using inorganic nutrients right?
Looks like bad root rot
 

KronikGrower

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Those roots are completley FUCKed......nasty even if you kept 'em going I wouldn't smoke it? No Roots = No Yield......Like everyone else suggests H2O2, that will help but probably not save you? Good Luck
 

johny1212

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Also make sure to keep your res below 72 to keep shit from growing. High res temps are death. Also keep all light out of the root chamber. Kronik is right. Roots are key and you don't really have anything to work with. Sorry man, live and learn;)
 

johny1212

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Yeah, that sucks. I ran a very similar tub setup last year. You could try h2o2 at a pretty high level and see what happens. Definitely get the res clean, cool and totally dark before you do anything.
 

cannofbliss

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just take the plant out of the container and use a concentrated amount with a 20 oz spray bottle of H2O2 say like 4 capfulls and then spray the bejesus out of them to see it that will rinse it all off...

im not too sure if that really is root rot cause the plant looks fairly healthy for there to be that much extensive rot...

there is more of a build up of something on those roots and isnt really root rot unless those roots smell like a dirty fish tank...

that buildup on the roots is something but cannot tell unless actually see and smell... try a gentle scrubbing with sanitized hands/nails after you spray with the peroxide and see if that doesnt clear it up along with lowering res temps and you should be gravy;)
 

jaag102882

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yea so... bought a thermometer and res temps are actually 67.8 degrees and i have 4 airstones... 2 are 6" long and are running on a 60 gallon pump... then i have a 4" stone on a 4 gallon pump and a 8" stone on its on 35 gallon pump so i'm generating a lot of bubbles... as far as my roots go i checked my res this morning and the roots have almost doubled in size and are super white... bleach was not my problem... it actually helped bc it was able to kill 100% of the germs left in my res during cleaning... and i made sure that all the bleach was thoroughly washed out before adding my purified water and nutes.... and destillat check out earlier post i specifically said that i have been using H2O2 my entire grow every 2-3 days... bleach is used as a cleaner not added to the water just to make sure i kill everything that may be in my res... another thing that helped is i got a spray bottle and filled it with 3% h2o2 and sprayed the roots of each plant then flushed them with purified water... at the same time destillat i think you were right about the res temps being to high bc for a while i didnt have a way to tell the temp and the water was warm to the touch so i started using cold water around 60 degrees and it raises to around 65-70 and stays constant... i just ppl were more constant with res temps bc after reading some other forum threads when i first started my grow everyone was saying between 70-80... so def thanks for the incite... :mrgreen:
 

jaag102882

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btw thanks everyone for your input... new roots are showing and the babies look just as healthy as before... took everyones suggestions and did it all just about lol... thinking theyll pull it off especially seeing the significant root growth in the past couple days... i will def post more pics for you guys during the flowering process and hopefully it will all be good news... burning one for all of you :)
 

jaag102882

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Here are some updated pics of one of my plants... she ended up with 5 tops... one more hasnt sexed yet and the other 2 were male... the pic of the roots was shot one week after the nasty root photo... :lol:



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