Larry OG vs. Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (2nd Scrog)

hellraizer30 said:
Looks like the roots are seting in now!
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AGREED, THEY ARE GONN BLOW UP ... really fast

@ jin just cosider I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITLY GO LONGER THO MAN... I/AND EVERYONE CAN TELL a HUGE DIFFRENCE between the 60- day herb, and the 77 day herb, all cUred great, totall diffret taste and smell 100%% WHAT CAN IT HURT? ITS nearly ONLY 2 WEEKS =) i think youll finish before me cause, i lagged on gettin this run in

its been a busy month for me lots of birthdays, and 2 death anniersarys,if ya call'em that sidenote: do you ever want someone to shut up cause you tired of listening to them REPEAT the same thing/small talk TRYING TO MAKE a conversation when there is nothing to be said ?? SO ANNOYIN? OR JUST BEING INSENSITIVE?? do i just hate small talk?

last year sucked personally, lost 2 close family members, 1 cancer and 1 to a pulmonary embolism. been rough im to a point where i have said fuck everyone but good ol. #1, im doin me.. watever I want
 
SFguy said:
AGREED, THEY ARE GONN BLOW UP ... really fast

@ jin just cosider I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITLY GO LONGER THO MAN... I/AND EVERYONE CAN TELL a HUGE DIFFRENCE between the 60- day herb, and the 77 day herb, all cUred great, totall diffret taste and smell 100%% WHAT CAN IT HURT? ITS nearly ONLY 2 WEEKS =) i think youll finish before me cause, i lagged on gettin this run in
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The thing with these clones in my system is that after a certain point, they just say, "lights out." It was pretty easy for me to tell that if I had gone longer with the previous Tahoes, they would have started into their degrading phase as the Diablos did. The life cycle is just accelerated with my plants. Five days too much could hurt 'em bad. I won't make the Diablo mistake again. Those def lost potency and jar appeal cuz I let 'em go too long as well as overnuting... and that was just 60 days. If I take these past 56 days, I'll have to nute them more, as I've been doing. We'll see how it goes. I think these will be larger, stronger plants, so they might be able to last a little closer to your recommend.

Oh, and this Tahoe has very mature body. Feels like a much longer run bud than 56 days. The cure is setting in and they're becoming rocks. When I burp the jars (as you've reminded me to do, thanks) the picture perfect OG smell releases from the open bin. I have no doubt that I harvested at just the right moment. But again, every grow is different. These just might go past 60 days. But at the rate they've been going so far, I would put my money against it.
 
SFguy said:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to lordjin again. TANKS BRO. I try to invest time/ money into good equipment, you get what you give

buy the best only cry once!!
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Yes. And I do wish I could let my bud go longer. But plants just tend to burn up in my system due to the intensity. Sleezy1 has talked me into running a trial with Blackstar Led.

hellraizer30 said:
Looks like the roots are seting in now!
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These are rooting much more aggressively... and without zymes!
 
I know you're worried about my muscle chicken tendency, but I swear I'm watching for nute burn. I'm riding them high in veg because I think that's where I made the mistake last time. I rode them slightly on the low side in veg, so the base structure of the plant didn't grow as large as it could have. This gave me a smaller yield because they couldn't take much more than 800ppm in flower due to their smallish vegetative structure.

This time I'm going for a higher nute veg and will try to level them off at about a 1000ppm at flower and gradually peak to 1100ppm or 1200ppm before gradually reducing in ripen phase. On a purely mathematical level, these larger numbers should result in larger yield.
 
the diablo to me was one of the most potent erbs i ever smoked... from lordjin...
I think it was more on the overnuted side... but he maintains he went to long..
And he may be right... but just imagine how crazy jins bud would look at 65 days....thatd be awesome!
 
Good Morning Jin! Just wanted to say hello before I finish harvesting my girls! I did a good amount last night, so it shouldnt take too long now!
 
Psychild said:
Can you describe what happened to your Diablo plant? How you could tell it went to long?
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Of course. I rode the nutrient concentration higher than I ever did on a previous grow with Diablo. This resulted in the monster, accelerated growth exhibited in that infamous journal, but I didn't take into account that accelerated growth needs to be adjusted with a shorter flowering period. The buds were huge and donkey dicks, but they also had these little yellow tips from where the calyxes just went over their time. The taste and smell characteristics were strong at first, but it didn't cure well... and I can assure you it's not because I did it wrong. The smell remained strong, but the OG smell morphed into something else. I attribute all these things to their harsh treatment and prolonged death cycle.

As Cheeze mentioned, it was still potent as fuck, but I when I fall short of perfection, I don't consider it a success.

323cheezy said:
the diablo to me was one of the most potent erbs i ever smoked... from lordjin...
I think it was more on the overnuted side... but he maintains he went to long..
And he may be right... but just imagine how crazy jins bud would look at 65 days....thatd be awesome!
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Potency is never missing in my crops, so now I focus on the finer things like smell, taste, density, trich coverage, and burn smoothness. That's why even though I knew my leftover Diablo crumbs would get you and your gf high, I was kinda embarrassed to have you taste it because the flavor was totally fucked by that time due not only to the factors mentioned above, but to the fermentation process that set in (this is what happens when you take your buds past cure). **an interesting side note on bud fermentation: A few days to a week after cutting, your buds are dry, you can smoke it, but the effects are still underdeveloped. A few weeks after they have dried and you are storing in jars with periodic burps, the bud is in its prime stage of cure -- this is the stage most desired by shops and patients. Now you go months and months and months of just leaving your bud sitting in dark, air-tight jars, they start fermenting. The high from a fermented OG is something quite different as I'm sure you can attest to, Cheeze.

Sleezy1 talked me into trying Blackstar LED. I plan to run it for my next. This should take away much if not all of my heat control challenges. A milder temp environment that doesn't require brutal air exchange to keep it cool will allow me run my plants longer.
 
Hey Jin! Amazing to watch your plants veg...makes me want to switch to dwc or aero or something!

My tahoe is at 35 days flower now, and is looking so pretty (not as much trichs as yours but the amazing PO genetics are showing themselves)

Anyways I was wondering if you or anyone you knew ever grew out seeds from PO? They sell "44 seed supply" which I think is just what they call their in-house seeds... I got some Larry og kush S1 seeds from PO and I wonder if I can expect the same amazing genetics and og dank from the seeds that I'm seeing from the clones? I understand the tahoe is the clone-only version so it will be different, but I've always heard that larry and tahoe have very similar characteristics (and I'm loving everything I've seen so far from PO!)

My next grow will likely be with these seeds instead of clones, so any info/insight on PO seeds would be great!
 
Lookin good man!! Finally got the time to sit down and read through this, it's been overdue. I got some of those cuts yesterday too!! Beautiful, healthy, and no visible mites. Quarantined overnight anyway and about to get them into my waterfarm system today. I'm excited, watch my journal for updates/pics.
 
mike91sr said:
Lookin good man!! Finally got the time to sit down and read through this, it's been overdue. I got some of those cuts yesterday too!! Beautiful, healthy, and no visible mites. Quarantined overnight anyway and about to get them into my waterfarm system today. I'm excited, watch my journal for updates/pics.
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Brilliant. You'll have to post some pics here to motivate me to visit your journal, tho. Lol.

Anyone growing OG! And especially those growing PO OG! Post your photos here! Lordjin commands it.
 
Here's my tahoe from PO at day 28 flower, not as good as yours Jin but looks as good as anything I've ever grown! And I can already smell the delicious og fuel smell, so thank you PO!

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frotastic said:
Here's my tahoe from PO at day 28 flower, not as good as yours Jin but looks as good as anything I've ever grown! And I can already smell the delicious og fuel smell, so thank you PO!

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That's what I'm talking about. It looks great, Fro. And it should look way better than mine to you. Why? Because it's yours.
 
Aye fro!

I ran blue larry 3 times already ...
It was a pheno selected from 44's cross...the blue dream x larry...
Allot of people dont think his genetics are elite..
And its not as good as a pure og cut...
But i killed it with blue larry .... you really got to get a feel for the seed phenos and amnipulate them to your liking...

If i were you id go with green labs..made from high breeder...
He crossed tahoe to just about everything..
I grew the sour tahoe... its not as good as og but unique and worthy to grow..
But i grow for the headstache so i like it all and dont worrry about donations...
I think i wann try there tahoe 2.0 ...the main guy at po Z.... croosed tahoe back to tahoe..
That might be fire....
Im on the pheno hunt.. so let me know if u want any sour tahoe or whitefire og cuts...
Ill have them in about a month ready...
 
sweeet Lordjin, lookin good, can't wait to see 12/12 happen! I'm on day 4 veg today, will post pics in a day or 2, just topped her for the first time, changed around my position of my light last night, see if i can make the coverage a bit more even, i still want to invest in a cool tube, cause i just dont like 88 temps hehe damn hot summer i tell u

list of things to buy!!....portable evaporative cooler for these hooter days, be ok for veg, don't know about flower though, but hope weather will cool slightly by then !!
 
flowamasta said:
sweeet Lordjin, lookin good, can't wait to see 12/12 happen! I'm on day 4 veg today, will post pics in a day or 2, just topped her for the first time, changed around my position of my light last night, see if i can make the coverage a bit more even, i still want to invest in a cool tube, cause i just dont like 88 temps hehe damn hot summer i tell u

list of things to buy!!....portable evaporative cooler for these hooter days, be ok for veg, don't know about flower though, but hope weather will cool slightly by then !!
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Excellent. Yes, we indoor growers in Southern California face similar heat issues. I was looking into using a water-cooled tube for my next, but I'm thinking of trying Led based on Sleezy1's consistent results with them.

jojo2002 said:
ill post my SFV in a bit..
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Please by all means. I love SFV.
 
This is Carol. She's Brazilian-American, and popular in the hip hop scene (for obvious reasons). I'm currently in negotiation with her. Will she be one of our first Emerald Goddesses? I don't know yet, but she's 420 friendly and loves Sleezy's and my site ideas. I'll keep you posted.
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