Last try to save this poor White Widow.

Will this poor thread of a White Widow root?

  • Yes- seems legit.

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Yes, if you do it this way (explain)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Whatintheholyhell- NO!

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .

MAGpie81

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Was once a vibrant 16inch tall plant. Fried her too long/close to a heating fan (though my Durban Poisons did fine; I thought WW liked the heat??).
She wilted over, never recovering her upper leaves so trimmed her trimmed her down at the stalk.
What you see in the pics is me cutting the last bit of growth down to a clone-size piece, adding a dab of Manuka honey to the injured part up top near new growth, then I let it sit in about 15ml of mildly warmed water well-water (pH ~6) with maybe a half-milliter of Clonex, in a jar santized with H2O2 for about 5 minutes.
From there I lightly scraped the skin from about a cm up down to the bottom, covered it with Manuka honey, then quickly sliced off, at a bias, a little more off the bottom, dipped it back in water for a moment then coated it with Manuka honey, and inserted into a Rapid Rooter plug I had sanitized with H2O2 and rinsed, that was on toothpick stilts inside a coozy-covered glass that had just enough lightly warmed weak-Clonex water to cover just the bottom of Rooter plug.
The straw is for occasionally bubbling the water with my breath, after rinsing my mouth with diluted H2O2.
I like this set up. You can remove the jar-dome, fill it with hot water and then plug it on the bottom to gently warm the plug-jar from beneath.
The jar-dome fits snugly over the bottom with the coozy, and since I then put this in a seedling tray-dome with seedlings I am watching (on a heat mat; veg-LED over the seedling area), the coozy will wick up moisture keeping the seal tight but should allow moisture to also wick out if it gets to humid in the jar.
Anyhow- poor lil’ Widow was a freebie and not really fitted for my long term plan (milder-climate greenhouse-to-outdoor) but I still have some hope I can revive her and don’t mind the experiment. Bit doubtful as well because her stem was very woody. Maybe would’ve made more sense to cut her down to just a dermal layer attached to the new growth?
I have clones rooted now in soil from the wee tops of three 4week-old Durban Poisons; used a near identical method as I’m doing with WW, so there springs my hope.5713933B-ACC8-4780-882C-6B77DD07C6B6.jpeg27962E3A-DB0F-4564-A80B-891BDABA15BF.jpeg59D025CF-89F3-4EE8-AF9F-4B736B029AF7.jpegDC985669-D043-4CFE-B374-D6AC5FB931DE.jpeg95B15E17-F654-422E-AA10-E27479B15034.jpegA852F1E9-84FC-49EF-A039-6F49DE782375.jpeg
 

MAGpie81

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I think she'll come back. I had a clone that I was sure had died. But I was wrong.
Look at her now.
Very nice. The hard part with mine will be growing new roots- I cut it from those too, like a cutting from the stalk- FULL-restart! But, yeah, I’m sure it could work, with patience and care.
How long did yours take? Care to share your method?
 

bleedintears

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Haha no method at all really. Standaard rockwool cloning with clonex gel. Didnt throw roots. The other clones started showing roots. So I planted them all. After a month of suffering. I came to the conclusion that she was a lost cause. Pulled her out of the tent. Sat in a room where the lights are only on when I am in there. Sat for a month maybe longer. Then one day I wanted to clean up the room. And noticed that there was still a green tinge to the smallest leaves.

I moved her to her own space. And there she sat since. At first she was under a blurple spot light. Then when I needed to get some other plants into some decent light. I moved her under a 4ft single to bulb.
 

bleedintears

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I tied her to the chop stick instead of tying her to the pot. Because I want to transplant soon. Going to keep it going like this. As some play on manifolding. I'll take the two other tops and secure them when they get big enough.
 

MAGpie81

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Haha no method at all really. Standaard rockwool cloning with clonex gel. Didnt throw roots. The other clones started showing roots. So I planted them all. After a month of suffering. I came to the conclusion that she was a lost cause. Pulled her out of the tent. Sat in a room where the lights are only on when I am in there. Sat for a month maybe longer. Then one day I wanted to clean up the room. And noticed that there was still a green tinge to the smallest leaves.

I moved her to her own space. And there she sat since. At first she was under a blurple spot light. Then when I needed to get some other plants into some decent light. I moved her under a 4ft single to bulb.
Very cool. Yeah, gardening runs in my blood and I kinda was treating her like a pepper wintering-over, at first, then figured since I had successfully cloned all three of the tiny tops I had taken before, maybe I could draw new roots out of this one. My main concern is the woody stem but I think given time it will soften up and sprout roots. The little new growth that had started on it looks pretty good.
Will update in a week (or less if she dies).
 

MAGpie81

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Quick update-
The little bit of new growth has already grown out in just a couple days. Reminder- no roots attached to stalk- just a cutting of the whole stalk near the bottom. Plant almost nine weeks old. Once was about a foot tall and thriving.
I wonder if the Manuka honey stalk-fed it.
Rinsed my mouth with H2O2 and bubbled the water for a minute. Did not change yet.
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MAGpie81

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Sweet Jesus. Is this a challenge or are you unable to score some seeds?
Challenge/experiment.
Second-year cannabis grower, but inherited a green thumb (I think, haha) and have a sort-of empathy for plants I can use; hate to let a fighting plant go.
I need to give myself a good challenge- grew GG4 from great local stock last year (should’ve kept her around, but can get more if same) and it is very hardy. I have Durban Poison, Kwazulu, Freakshow (also very hardy so far- 9wks, mixed-light/greenhouse), and some auto Banana Kush (8weeks, hardy but figuring out feed, and whether to move to a more sunlit greenhouse not hooked up to blackout for flower).
Anyhoo- love my Sativas hence the long-windedness, but want the challenge of White Widow as I’m near the coast in Mendocino County, and like to move from greenhouse to outdoor once warm enough; and I like WW.
The WW seeds were free.
 

hotrodharley

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Sweet Jesus. Is this a challenge or are you unable to score some seeds?
Challenge/experiment.
Second-year cannabis grower, but inherited a green thumb (I think, haha) and have a sort-of empathy for plants I can use; hate to let a fighting plant go.
I need to give myself a good challenge- grew GG4 from great local stock last year (should’ve kept her around, but can get more if same) and it is very hardy. I have Durban Poison, Kwazulu, Freakshow (also very hardy so far- 9wks, mixed-light/greenhouse), and some auto Banana Kush (8weeks, hardy but figuring out feed, and whether to move to a more sunlit greenhouse not hooked up to blackout for flower).
Anyhoo- love my Sativas hence the long-windedness, but want the challenge of White Widow as I’m near the coast in Mendocino County, and like to move from greenhouse to outdoor once warm enough; and I like WW.
The WW seeds were free.
I’m a sativa fan and there’s far better and rarer strains than WW. But glad you’re curious and trying.
 

MAGpie81

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Sweet Jesus. Is this a challenge or are you unable to score some seeds?

I’m a sativa fan and there’s far better and rarer strains than WW. But glad you’re curious and trying.
Any particulars you like? Got a friend inland who grows great sour diesel that really gets you going. White widow was just a freebie and not actually Sativa, just going for different terps.
Plus- I’m still a newb so all the experiments are fun- mistakes help you learn.
 

hotrodharley

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Any particulars you like? Got a friend inland who grows great sour diesel that really gets you going. White widow was just a freebie and not actually Sativa, just going for different terps.
Plus- I’m still a newb so all the experiments are fun- mistakes help you learn.
Straight sativas can take forever to flower. I like all the old landrace strains. Especially the southern Mexicans like Oaxacan and Michoacán. Panama Red and Colombian.

This year I’m going to run Pineapple Fields from Dynasty Genetics. Incredibly hard to find in stock but a couple months ago got lucky with @JBCSeeds.

It’s a sativa dominant but takes about 11-12 weeks. Says 9-10 but uh uh. This time I’m making seeds !
 

hotrodharley

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These things are tough. They’re not weeds or a weed. They’re a member of the hackberry family which includes hops. Of course a rose is a weed if it’s growing somewhere it’s not wanted.
 

MAGpie81

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Straight sativas can take forever to flower. I like all the old landrace strains. Especially the southern Mexicans like Oaxacan and Michoacán. Panama Red and Colombian.

This year I’m going to run Pineapple Fields from Dynasty Genetics. Incredibly hard to find in stock but a couple months ago got lucky with @JBCSeeds.

It’s a sativa dominant but takes about 11-12 weeks. Says 9-10 but uh uh. This time I’m making seeds !
Yeah, supposedly the Dutch Passion Durban Poison flowers quicker, probably due to the little bit of Indica (unknown, they say) crossed in.
I hope to cross DP with S. African Kwazulu, another African landrace Sativa that is hardy to milder temps and is supposed to have a sweet flavor profile.
 
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