Late flower issues

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Slabbsss said:
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I thought I had ordered the 444 dr earth and it was supposed to come Tuesday but the order declined and I didn’t look so I had to buy some from store and they only had this. If it isn’t good enough I’ll buy the right kind next week
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I use the tomato and vegetable one for through stretch and flower girl for flowering. 4-4-4 should be good for the whole grow if you wanted to go that route. I'm not sure about the one you are using though.
 
big bud man 413

big bud man 413

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PopAndSonGrows said:
Attack of the FoxFarm.

No offense to anyone using FF products but they are NOT beginner friendly. You'll just constantly be chasing problem after problem.

In fact, I don't think they're that great for growing cannabis at all, but, I got some KICKASS tomatoes last year using Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom and Beastie Bloomz outside in the garden.

Proof of said tomatoes. A medium variety, they still came out HYUUUGE
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Yes sir your right I had lots of problems with fox farm shit soils too especially with bugs and fungus gnats!
 
DeadHeadX

DeadHeadX

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HydroKid239 said:
They drink & eat more in flower. What do you actually give in your "Light" doses? I've used fox farm & burned them, and also seen them starving. These look like they are cannibalizing because they aren't getting enough. Looks can be deceiving though, that's why I ask.
Which products are you using? How much of each bottle do you feed? How many of the bottles are you currently using? How much calmag & how often are they fed in general?
Is the PH read before or after adding nutes to the water?
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Budzbuddha said:
You shot yourself in foot with “ light “ feedings especially in later flower where ( around 1000ppm + or - ) is a good level.
Flowers crave the bloom nutrients during this time to help buildup / form flowers - without it - it will cannibalize itself .

Hence the leaf issues. Even if you corrected feed leaf that are damaged will not correct , you are trying to stop its progression.

Plus those plants are not even close to being done.

Damage might be done - try to crawl those all the way til end . Autos hate stress and will give up the ghost if pushed too hard. 65 day autos ( ANY AUTO ) are nowhere gonna be ready. Most can push up to 90 days.
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Thanks much. I’m in no hurry to harvest and would love to see them through. Should I continue to feed and/or up the dose? While I can’t correct damaged leaves, can I help supplement to keep things going for a couple weeks? I’m up for trying different stuff.

Remove damaged leaves? Add more nutes? Thanks.
 
Grojak

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Using LED light? If so What wattage? On at 100% How close to plants? If not using LeD disregard.
 
DeadHeadX

DeadHeadX

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Grojak said:
Using LED light? If so What wattage? On at 100% How close to plants? If not using LeD disregard.
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Yes, using led. Slowly turned it up. Ran it to 100% for a short time, then backed it off to 90% and raised things a little (@20” from canopy). 20/4 cycle. I’ve definitely considered that some issues may well be related to too much light.
 
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Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Slabbsss said:
I’ll see how the plants react to it inna week to see if I should stop using it
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Lurk the local nursery or WALFART for some “ tomato / Veg garden “ food , even a couple of lousy Jobe Tomato spikes. Until you get your nutes.
Palm food might lean toward acidic as they prefer it , so not sure if your weed will take it. Tomato Tone or VIGORO tomato ( Home Depot ) will work.

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Budzbuddha said:
Lurk the local nursery or WALFART for some “ tomato / Veg garden “ food , even a couple of lousy Jobe Tomato spikes. Until you get your nutes.
Palm food might lean toward acidic as they prefer it , so not sure if your weed will take it. Tomato Tone or VIGORO tomato ( Home Depot ) will work.

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Regular ol plantone would work too, I may switch to the tone's, it's more readily available.
 
DeadHeadX

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HydroKid239 said:
They drink & eat more in flower. What do you actually give in your "Light" doses? I've used fox farm & burned them, and also seen them starving. These look like they are cannibalizing because they aren't getting enough. Looks can be deceiving though, that's why I ask.
Which products are you using? How much of each bottle do you feed? How many of the bottles are you currently using? How much calmag & how often are they fed in general?
Is the PH read before or after adding nutes to the water?
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Thanks for all the help! I fed them half doses of the fox farm Tiger bloom, grow big and big bloom. I didn’t start any feeding until around 35 days in. Also gave fox farm cal mag a couple times. They received about one plain water and one nute feeding a week, or maybe every eight days depending on weight of pots, for the last month or so. Ph seems fine, always in mid 6 range, low 6 after nutes added (just tested this for the first time this week). I backed lights off to 80% a week or so ago, and today plan to add a little longer dark period (from 4 to 6 hours darkness).

All three plants seem to have differing needs/problems. Recommendations for how to successfully keep them going to full maturity are appreciated.

The bushiest of the plants is the least developed, and perhaps offers the best opportunity for correction. It was pretty vibrant green until @10 days ago. I gave it a half dose in its last feeding, three days ago, but it’s about ready for another. Should I give it a heavier dose of nutes? Plain water? E15C7998-128C-479E-8658-62BA92B0D105.jpeg

And here’s the main cola on another plant that was also doing great until recently. This one’s further along anyway, but I’d love to nurture it to its stoniest possible outcome. Learning. I do have some confidence I’ll get decently smokable bud out of these plants, keep my head happyish and do better next time. No more ff.
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HydroKid239

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DeadHeadX said:
Thanks for all the help! I fed them half doses of the fox farm Tiger bloom, grow big and big bloom. I didn’t start any feeding until around 35 days in. Also gave fox farm cal mag a couple times. They received about one plain water and one nute feeding a week, or maybe every eight days depending on weight of pots, for the last month or so. Ph seems fine, always in mid 6 range, low 6 after nutes added (just tested this for the first time this week). I backed lights off to 80% a week or so ago, and today plan to add a little longer dark period (from 4 to 6 hours darkness).

All three plants seem to have differing needs/problems. Recommendations for how to successfully keep them going to full maturity are appreciated.

The bushiest of the plants is the least developed, and perhaps offers the best opportunity for correction. It was pretty vibrant green until @10 days ago. I gave it a half dose in its last feeding, three days ago, but it’s about ready for another. Should I give it a heavier dose of nutes? Plain water? View attachment 5268624

And here’s the main cola on another plant that was also doing great until recently. This one’s further along anyway, but I’d love to nurture it to its stoniest possible outcome. Learning. I do have some confidence I’ll get decently smokable bud out of these plants, keep my head happyish and do better next time. No more ff.
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Give her a full dose of big bloom & tiger bloom. If you've recently added calmag, skip that til next watering. Some epsom salts wouldn't hurt in flower either.
Hold on as long as you can with those necrotic leaves getting close to the buds. Mainly the leaves growing out of the colas. If worse comes to wore, you can wait til maybe 2 days after a watering, and get some snippers in there to clip those leaves at the base. even if you have to pry the bud open a little. It's better than losing the whole cola to rot. I'm sure it will be fine. Mine recovered fine when I needed to save a few colas. Be sure to wait til maybe the day before you water again. If you watered too recently, and then cut the leaf stem between t he bud.. moisture will bleed from the wound & rot would be knocking on your door.
 
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