Leaf Septoria

Medicated Bonsai

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Leaf septoria, also known as septoria leaf spot or yellow leaf spot, is a plant disease caused by a specific kind of fungus known as Septoria lycopersici. ... Leaf septoria usually affects plants just after they enter the flowering stage and usually forms on lowerleaves firs


So I've come to the conclusion that I indeed had leaf septoria. For any that want to take preventative measures, I believe my case was caused by a combination of high humidity (55-65%) and improper air movement. Here's what I would recommend..

1) Keep an eye on your RH. This means for both day and night. You should be able to see what your humidity peaked at on your digital temp/rh meter. Ideal conditions should stay within 50-55%

2) Have a fan to circulate air at the top and another at the base of the plant. I believe this is where I could have prevented the issue. There wasn't enough air circulation on the lower leaves and caused mold issues as the plant became denser with more foliage growth.

3) Soil amendments...being a first time grower, I made the mistake of adding too much perlite and using it as a top dressing once most of it surfaced. With the lack of air movement and the water retention of perlite, I feel like this increased my chances. I think I'm lucky I didn't run into algae and fungus gnat issues as well.


But, if you already have leaf septoria, these are the step's I would take...

1) Make sure that its indeed leaf septoria. Yellowing/leaf spots can be caused from a variety of other things but, they all have their own set of symptoms, patterns, etc. The last thing you wanna do is treat for an illness that doesn't exist. This could cause a bunch of new issues/symptoms to appear.

2) Move and Isolate the plant from the others so this disease doesn't spread too quickly.

2) Examine your plants a little closer. How much of the foliage is effected? If the disease is in it's earlier stages then simply remove the effected leaves and increase/adjust the air movement. If the disease has spread all the way to the top and covers most leaves then do not strip any leaves. Stripping too many leaves and leaving her naked could cause more stress/harm than good. At this point, it's up to you to decide the fate. I'm not sure if there's much you can do once it's reached this stage. Being that its mold, I think it's safer to toss and start over. However, do not spray the whole plant with fungicides to treat the spotting. This wont wet or trap any of the spores. It'll simply splash everything all over the place. Causing the disease to spread.

3) Clean your tent/grow area. I wiped everything down with a towel and hydrogen peroxide.

4) Apply some type of fungicide or natural oil (ie - neem). This will mainly depend on which cycle you're in. Spraying fungicides during the flowering process may ruin your buds.


Hopefully this can help someone out in the future. If i'm wrong about anything please let me know! Cheers and Good Luck guys!
 
Septoria is a annual companion for me on my outdoor grows. It always seems to hit the lower fan leaves first and will spread slowly up the plant. Aside from the damage to the fans(which I suspect will cause slower growth) it really seems to be more cosmetic then damaging.
 
All this septoria bs reminds me of when everyone had tmv last year.Septoria is an outdoor problem that is very rare indoors.A few on here blame every minor blemish on septoria,move on and look for the real trouble.
 
All this septoria bs reminds me of when everyone had tmv last year.Septoria is an outdoor problem that is very rare indoors.A few on here blame every minor blemish on septoria,move on and look for the real trouble.
Sounds like you should move on and stop looking at posts about leaf septoria. Boom, problem solved! Hope your day gets better big guy!
 
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Sounds like you should move on and stop looking at posts about leaf septoria. Boom, problem solved! Hope your day gets better big guy!

I agree with you, I've been dealing with septoria for years, I studied it for a very long time before I came up with this diagnosis after eliminating all other possibilities, as there were no other elements lacking in my grow..

These pictures are all septoria. They all look like something else with the exception of the picture with my thumb in it, that's a classic septoria presentation

Somebody will always show up and say it's calcium or this and that, and it certainly does look like other things however I think they assume we haven't thought it out while we're sitting here watching our plants basically die in front of us?

btw, humiditys manageable here til spring and by then I'm going to have to get a third line run in the room so I can manage a proper dehumidifier, that's only way that you'll stop septoria.

Above you mentioned that you thought it might have been prevented with fans, I use 9" High Velocity fans on the floor in addition to the clip fans and it won't prevent it my friend, good luck!
 
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I agree with you, I've been dealing with septoria for years, I studied it for a very long time before I came up with this diagnosis after eliminating all other possibilities, as there were no other elements lacking in my grow..

These pictures are all septoria. They all look like something else with the exception of the picture with my thumb in it, that's a classic septoria presentation

Somebody will always show up and say it's calcium or this and that, and it certainly does look like other things however I think they assume we haven't thought it out while we're sitting here watching our plants basically die in front of us?

btw, humiditys manageable here til spring and by then I'm going to have to get a third line run in the room so I can manage a proper dehumidifier, that's only way that you'll stop septoria.

Above you mentioned that you thought it might have been prevented with fans, I use 9" High Velocity fans on the floor in addition to the clip fans and it won't prevent it my friend, good luck!
Man I hope mine doesn’t re-appear. It’s been 3 days and I haven’t seen any signs. Just curious but, what preventative measures have worked for you? Good luck to you and your grow brotha!
 
Man I hope mine doesn’t re-appear. It’s been 3 days and I haven’t seen any signs. Just curious but, what preventative measures have worked for you? Good luck to you and your grow brotha!

Nothing. Nothing works. I usually get it in the late fall but this year the spring was so rainy I had it by May and have been dealing with it since..

I spray copper fungicide, baking soda, neem oil and burn sulfur on a rotation, this slows it down to the point where I can continue growing

I have almost none of it in veg, they get a weekly neem spray as well as a sulfa burn at least every Sunday

Bloom gets a copper spray every Wednesday, in addition to a sulfur burn on Sunday

The Dismal weather here on the shore of New England has necessitated my spraying twice a week recently, as well as the traditional Sunday Sulphur Burning Festival

I hope it doesn't reappear for you, best of luck!
 
there r more than one kind of leaf spot,saying that if u got it indoor ya environment is fucked keep rh below 50 it cant grow end of story!!

Thumper is the guy that taught me about Leaf septoria & recommended the copper fungicide way back in the spring, he would have your info op, I hope it works out you!

You're right about my environment! I have to find another 650 watts to run a decent 70 pt. dehumidifier, believe me Im spraying some crap or another all the time here between a saltmarsh and the coast, I get to harvest without much leaf loss but I could do without all the added work if I'm honest
 
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Man I hope mine doesn’t re-appear. It’s been 3 days and I haven’t seen any signs. Just curious but, what preventative measures have worked for you? Good luck to you and your grow brotha!

Problem is it looks like so many other things that you're never really sure so you go chasing and checking everything twice, sometimes you find other issues but sometimes there are no other issues, so it sure seems like it's septoria at that point, particularly considering it never stops raining in New England anymore?
 
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