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cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Chief Walkin Eagle said:
lol I dont know if theres a rule man, I was just suggesting the possibility. Maybe its because you shouldnt need a supernatural act to be performed in order for you to believe in god because your dumbass should already know =p. I dont know if he has a cellphone, he moved to work in Edmonton so Im assuming he does now, I just messaged him on facebook.
Sooo if your skeptic buddies raise up some money and you come down here, and you see the truth for yourself, what will you do? How would that proof change your world view? Would you feel scared and helpless because science turned out to be a very tiny fraction of reality
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But science is already only a fragment of Reality. But it's the one fragment that bears a universally-readable proofmark.
and you spent your life learning about something that doesnt even matter when it comes to the big picture?
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HUGE jump from there to here. Not supported.
What would you continue to do knowing that a lot of things that you thought to be woowoo bullshit was actually the truth?
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Let's say your friend's abilities test real. That would mean that the pure-materialist worldview is incomplete. It does NOT legitimize spiritism and superstition wholesale. It is not an all-or-nowt proposition. cn
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Padawanbater2 said:
Yeah, there's always 'some rule' they have to follow, or some reason they can't prove it to the public... Do you know what that 'rule' or reason is?






































Because they can't. They know they can't, and they know that by attempting to prove it, they'll be discovered to be a fraud. It happens to all of them, with no exceptions. From dowsing to thetan readers to psychics to fortune tellers, all of them.

I anxiously await your response. What's the hold up on his reply anyway? Does your friend have a cell phone?
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What if his friend knows the color of your underwear right now? Are you scared? Doesn't it bother you, as a possibility? Why would you antagonize such a powerful being, Pad? If the supernatural mystic friend touches you, be sure to use protection.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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cannabineer said:
But science is already only a fragment of Reality. But it's the one fragment that bears a universally-readable proofmark.HUGE jump from there to here. Not supported.
Let's say your friend's abilities test real. That would mean that the pure-materialist worldview is incomplete. It does NOT legitimize spiritism and superstition wholesale. It is not an all-or-nowt proposition. cn
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There is one thing he can do, maybe more than one, that does "legitimize spiritism and superstition wholesale"... BUT Im sure you'll find a way to down play and discredit what really is going on... But I guess I wouldnt blame you for resisting the truth so passionately, you spent your whole life supporting something thats opposite from the truth.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
lol I dont know if theres a rule man, I was just suggesting the possibility. Maybe its because you shouldnt need a supernatural act to be performed in order for you to believe in god because your dumbass should already know =p. I dont know if he has a cellphone, he moved to work in Edmonton so Im assuming he does now, I just messaged him on facebook.
Sooo if your skeptic buddies raise up some money and you come down here, and you see the truth for yourself, what will you do? How would that proof change your world view? Would you feel scared and helpless because science turned out to be a very tiny fraction of reality and you spent your life learning about something that doesnt even matter when it comes to the big picture? What would you continue to do knowing that a lot of things that you thought to be woowoo bullshit was actually the truth?
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What is the value in believing in something that isn't proven to be real? How many times do I need to ask you that question before you attempt to answer it?

I thought you didn't have any beliefs, but if you're saying I'm a dumbass for not believing God exists, that implies you believe in God (unless you're a dumbass, too).

Ask him if he'll come onto RIU and do an IAMA for us, you or me can create a profile for him and all he has to do is make an initial post, all of us will chime in with questions, and he comes back and responds.

Where would I be coming to? I don't know where you live.

Before I answer any of the other questions, I'd need you to be specific. What are you claiming are his abilities, exactly? I remember your story about how you were walking together and he read your mind, so how does that work? Can he choose to read anyone's mind, like professor X in X-Men, or does it only work during certain times, with certain people, what?

Science IS only a fraction of reality. It's still in its infancy at just over 400 years old. Now consider this, look at what science has accomplished in that short time, we went from grass huts to the Burj Khalifa, from Kitty Hawk to the Sea of Tranquility in 66 years, organized religion has been around for thousands of years​. What has it accomplished?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Chief Walkin Eagle said:
There is one thing he can do, maybe more than one, that does "legitimize spiritism and superstition wholesale"... BUT Im sure you'll find a way to down play and discredit what really is going on... But I guess I wouldnt blame you for resisting the truth so passionately, you spent your whole life supporting something thats opposite from the truth.
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What would that be? cn
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Padawanbater2 said:

What is the value in believing in something that isn't proven to be real? How many times do I need to ask you that question before you attempt to answer it?

I thought you didn't have any beliefs, but if you're saying I'm a dumbass for not believing God exists, that implies you believe in God (unless you're a dumbass, too).

Ask him if he'll come onto RIU and do an IAMA for us, you or me can create a profile for him and all he has to do is make an initial post, all of us will chime in with questions, and he comes back and responds.

Where would I be coming to? I don't know where you live.

Before I answer any of the other questions, I'd need you to be specific. What are you claiming are his abilities, exactly? I remember your story about how you were walking together and he read your mind, so how does that work? Can he choose to read anyone's mind, like professor X in X-Men, or does it only work during certain times, with certain people, what?

Science IS only a fraction of reality. It's still in its infancy at just over 400 years old. Now consider this, look at what science has accomplished in that short time, we went from grass huts to the Burj Khalifa, from Kitty Hawk to the Sea of Tranquility in 66 years, organized religion has been around for thousands of years​. What has it accomplished?
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Yeah I guess "believe" is a bad word to use, replace that with "know" =). And it has been proven, its been proven to me and his close friends many times, are you suggesting that scientist needs to experience it in order for it to be real? pfft, please...

He said any thought that has to do with him he is able to read, he has no control over it, they just pop in his head. I dont think hes able to block those thoughts either, because I'd be very nervous around him at first and think "GTFO of my head man" and you could clearly see his discomfort through his body language and facial expressions. When hes in a meditative state he can completely enter your mind and body, thats the experience I described that you said was similar to religious testimonies. He told me with intense and long periods of concentration he can control his element (fire) he said he only did that a couple times though. And the things we cant test and you probably dont even care for testing is that he can see anyones aura and can see chakra points in certain individuals, I can see my aura. And he says he can see the energy/silhouette of spirits... Im sure hes capable of more than that but thats just what we talked about.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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And hes declined =( oh well, its not like asking him questions would of proved anything anyways. Im talking about you meeting him right now though, he might be willing to do that... You'd be going to Edmonton Alberta Canada, or here in Prince George BC if hes visiting. Would be the best educational field trip of your life lol.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Im guessing he thought it was a waste of time and doesnt like being asked questions by the aggressive observers of the material world ... He really does have nothing to prove, he never brags about who he is or what he can do, the guy just wants to have fun and be happy. I admit, it would be a step forward for humanity if this information was proven to be true by people the public find credible but he doesnt want to go out of his way to do that. He just wants to smoke weed, be happy, party, and practice spirituality.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Im guessing he thought it was a waste of time and doesnt like being asked questions by the aggressive observers of the material world ... He really does have nothing to prove, he never brags about who he is or what he can do, the guy just wants to have fun and be happy. I admit, it would be a step forward for humanity if this information was proven to be true by people the public find credible but he doesnt want to go out of his way to do that. He just wants to smoke weed, be happy, party, and practice spirituality.
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1 Million Dollars = 6,667 ounces of weed.
1 Million Dollars = 10 Outrageous parties. Like Charlie Sheen outrageous!
1 Million Dollars = Enough "Spirituality" materials to "heal" Canada.

As for happiness, well, that has nothing to do with money.

Is he aware of this? That money can be turned into anything he needs? That he could help MILLIONS of starving humans? Tell him. He will be so overjoyed to be able to help so many humans, he'll fly to Pad's Pad tonight!
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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afrawfraw said:
1 Million Dollars = 6,667 ounces of weed.
1 Million Dollars = 10 Outrageous parties. Like Charlie Sheen outrageous!
1 Million Dollars = Enough "Spirituality" materials to "heal" Canada.

As for happiness, well, that has nothing to do with money.

Is he aware of this? That money can be turned into anything he needs? That he could help MILLIONS of starving humans? Tell him. He will be so overjoyed to be able to help so many humans, he'll fly to Pad's Pad tonight!
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It's actually closer to $2million, if he collects the other prizes offered by other folks too. Shit, the guy could invest that, and retire young.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Im guessing he thought it was a waste of time and doesnt like being asked questions by the aggressive observers of the material world ... He really does have nothing to prove, he never brags about who he is or what he can do, the guy just wants to have fun and be happy. I admit, it would be a step forward for humanity if this information was proven to be true by people the public find credible but he doesnt want to go out of his way to do that. He just wants to smoke weed, be happy, party, and practice spirituality.
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Consider for 10 seconds all the profound suffering this information could remedy, and the advancements that would follow to help not just man but all living creatures. It would be a strange form of spirituality that encouraged such callous selfishness.

Not that I do not respect the decision, but the excuse is BS.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I'm not too concerned about getting this knowledge out there ASAP. I do realize the benefits but Im confident that this knowledge will be made public soon enough without his help.
 
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