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afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Heisenberg said:
I don't believe the problem is pattern recognition.



The problem is conduct.
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Agreed. Patterns are important to humans because our brains are wired to notice them. That is how we shelf everything. In groups. This is not legitimate cause to believe that patterns are important, or relevant.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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afrawfraw said:
The only reason why you don't worship Chris Angel, or others like him, is the fact that they admit before the performance that is illusion, not real. All your friend would have to do is show you his illuisions, and you would cease to believe he was magical.
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Yes, 100% true... If they were illusions, and they are not =).
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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eye exaggerate said:
...my guess would be that some people love media attention, and others can do without it. Besides, I'd think that having 'powers' of any sort would be an extremely personal thing / monstrous responsibility. Few people can induce samadhi with their presence, I don't know that TV ever could no matter who's on the screen :) People that are 'charged' in this way likely know what it takes to get there, and how easily the 'power' can shy away. It's conditional. First, a person has to cultivate the 'cause' to achieve the 'effect'.

samadhi (from wiki) - It has been described as a non-dualistic state of consciousness in which the consciousness of the experiencing subject becomes one with the experienced object, and in which the mind becomes still, one-pointed or concentrated while the person remains conscious.

^ that's when 'real' magic is experienced, I'm quite sure.

edit: a 'real' 'mystic' would have strangers say to them "I don't know what it is, but there's something about you..." (not necessarily sexual, but from that same idea) - a mystic would likely say "I don't have anything that you do not have". It's about helping people attain the fullest version of the self, not TV.
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I wish I knew what his responsibility was, what his purpose is. He only told me "theres a few things I gotta do"... And he didnt achieve these abilities through practice, a life threatening event made him discover who he is, he could read minds ever since. He does practice and meditate to strengthen his abilities though... Believer or not, atheist or theist, if you touch him you feel a slight tingling in your heart.

That cause and effect explanation might be whats going on too, I dont know. Because when I thought he was crazy he felt no need to prove anything to me, but when I started to respect him then he showed me what he can do so I can start to learn for myself. Sadly, I have no amazing abilities yet lol most I can do is make other people feel their energy in their hands. I can see my aura too, its really trippy.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
I wish I knew what his responsibility was, what his purpose is. He only told me "theres a few things I gotta do"... And he didnt achieve these abilities through practice, a life threatening event made him discover who he is, he could read minds ever since. He does practice and meditate to strengthen his abilities though... Believer or not, atheist or theist, if you touch him you feel a slight tingling in your heart.

That cause and effect explanation might be whats going on too, I dont know. Because when I thought he was crazy he felt no need to prove anything to me, but when I started to respect him then he showed me what he can do so I can start to learn for myself. Sadly, I have no amazing abilities yet lol most I can do is make other people feel their energy in their hands. I can see my aura too, its really trippy.
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...Shamanic Illness. It's scary stuff.

The future shaman sometimes takes the risk of being mistaken for a "madman". . .but his "madness" fulfills a mystic function; it reveals certain aspects of reality to him that are inaccessible to other mortals, and it is only after having experienced and entered into these hidden dimensions of reality that the "madman" becomes a shaman. (Mircea Eliade. Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries. New York: Harper and Row, 1960. Page 80-81)
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
I wish I knew what his responsibility was, what his purpose is. He only told me "theres a few things I gotta do"... And he didnt achieve these abilities through practice, a life threatening event made him discover who he is, he could read minds ever since. He does practice and meditate to strengthen his abilities though... Believer or not, atheist or theist, if you touch him you feel a slight tingling in your heart.

That cause and effect explanation might be whats going on too, I dont know. Because when I thought he was crazy he felt no need to prove anything to me, but when I started to respect him then he showed me what he can do so I can start to learn for myself. Sadly, I have no amazing abilities yet lol most I can do is make other people feel their energy in their hands. I can see my aura too, its really trippy.
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That's not true, you have the ability to frustrate people to no end and to believe groundless claims. Don't sell yourself short...
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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eye exaggerate said:
...Shamanic Illness. It's scary stuff.

The future shaman sometimes takes the risk of being mistaken for a "madman". . .but his "madness" fulfills a mystic function; it reveals certain aspects of reality to him that are inaccessible to other mortals, and it is only after having experienced and entered into these hidden dimensions of reality that the "madman" becomes a shaman. (Mircea Eliade. Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries. New York: Harper and Row, 1960. Page 80-81)
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That makes sense, its very easy to be mistaken for a madman when you say you have these abilities. Theres more people like my friend in this town, I havent talked about them because I only had these experiences with my friend. I met my spiritual friends "master" (not really his master, just what he calls him). And he was mistaken for a madman, perhaps on purpose.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
How do you fake reading someones mind and answering their specific questions when both people are completely silent?
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Psychology, facebook, and google to name 3. "Your worried." No shit. "You have an investment opportunity." No shit. "Your sister is in Hawaii." No shit. Again, just have him name us. Certainly a simple question can pass among friends?

He APPEARED to read minds. Without empirical data, you don't know what the fuck is going on, do you? Instead, you go on how they appeared. Then he told you it was magic. You never questioned it. This is faith. Faith is useless to me. Love, peace, and chicken grease!
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
I wish I knew what his responsibility was, what his purpose is. He only told me "theres a few things I gotta do"... And he didnt achieve these abilities through practice, a life threatening event made him discover who he is, he could read minds ever since. He does practice and meditate to strengthen his abilities though... Believer or not, atheist or theist, if you touch him you feel a slight tingling in your heart.

That cause and effect explanation might be whats going on too, I dont know. Because when I thought he was crazy he felt no need to prove anything to me, but when I started to respect him then he showed me what he can do so I can start to learn for myself. Sadly, I have no amazing abilities yet lol most I can do is make other people feel their energy in their hands. I can see my aura too, its really trippy.
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Your cerebral hemispheres must be in reverse. Does your mind only perceive the abstract?
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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I think he knows exactly what you are talking about. i bet you're friend uses similar tricks, for example. Have your friend stand behind you and look over your shoulder, put a round pencil on the table in front of you, wave your hand in front of it as if you are using the force, but blow just softly enough for the pencil to move across the table.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Zaehet Strife said:
I think he knows exactly what you are talking about. i bet you're friend uses similar tricks, for example. Have your friend stand behind you and look over your shoulder, put a round pencil on the table in front of you, wave your hand in front of it as if you are using the force, but blow just softly enough for the pencil to move across the table.
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You dont seem to understand as well lol.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Ok, next time think of a multiplication... say, think about adding 117 and 203 to get 320. If you put that into your mind, and he says those 3 numbers in the same exact order, and you do this about 20 different times with different number combinations all adding up to a different sum... then yes, my skepticism would be satisfied and i would assume this person can read minds. But not fully, more tests would need to be done.

Instead... i think you may be asking yes or no questions towards your sly little friend, which can easily be answered with one word... yes, or no. Instead of 117 plus 203 equals 320, which would be much more difficult to guess than say... yes, or no.

I think someday you will be able to reflect on the deluded behavior contrived from emotional and sentimental feelings stemming from inner wants and psychological desires. Once you can get past these feelings and think with a rational mind, you may realize that you have much more power over who you are as an individual, and gain the ability to observe and critique the way your own mind works and operates.
 
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