Leathery, then fading, then crispy!

BeginnerGrow420

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Hey guys!
I just moved over here from another forum (ill give you a hint- they have a really overpriced online store) and i need help! I have a 7 week old plant in veg that I'm looking to start flowering as soon as shes healthy. I got the plant 3 weeks ago as a clone after some idiot let his room get over 100 degrees. So i got the plant with some heat stress (All lower leaves had some damage one way or another), but now new issues are arising. The clone was given to me in coco and i transplanted into foxfarm ocean forest soil. so now its in both. I might have used too many nutrients since the foxfarm soil is so rich (used foxfarm veg nutes a few times), so that might explain the issues.

so almost every leaf on my plant has a yellow tip, but that barely concerns me but im still curious.

the real issue is shown on one of the highest leaves. It started out getting leathery and shiny, then the life started to be sucked out of it and now its yellow crispy and dead only on the edges and between 50% of the veins

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BeginnerGrow420

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more specs:
150 w hps 20" away. ph of soil run off is about 6 (I'm working on bringing this up), humidity is about 45%, temp is 70-80. Any insight on this issue is GREATLY appreciated! Thanks guys
 

BeginnerGrow420

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The first picture here shows both the new yellow tips that occur on most leaves. Below the leaf i'm talking about is a couple leaves with crispy ends (it was like that when i got the plant). The second picture shows the whole plant. the top leaves are drooping because i think i underwatered the plant. IMG_0636.JPG IMG_0637.JPG
 

AfgooCBD

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i transplanted into foxfarm ocean forest soil. I might have used too many nutrients, but that barely concerns me
Sounds like you answered your own question. You nute-burned them. Use just water the next time it's fully dry, with 20% run-off. The FF should last another month without nutes. Don't know how long you plan on vegging. I would wait until transplant into bigger container (how big is that clay pot?), then go to Bloom nutes at 1/4 strength after a couple weeks. You can flip lights whenever. Plant looks healthy, except for the burn that is creeping up to the top. It's the same issues ("the real issue is shown on one of the highest leaves. It started out getting leathery and shiny"). I would be concerned, IMO. :hump: She'll make it, don't worry.
 
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BeginnerGrow420

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Thanks for the reply. My ceramic pot is 5 gallons and I don't think I'd be able to remover and transplant it. I'm concerned about this pot though because there is only one drainage hole. I just flushed her and I only got like 10% of it in return. I'm sure the poor drainage is hurting my plant so what can I do?
 

AfgooCBD

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Water less (drainage hole question). I was going to say, "Plant looks big, wonder what the pot size is?" 5 gal! That last pic is deceiving. And it looks like the top leaves are drooping. How tall is she, 20 inches? A 5-gal container can handle a 5 foot plant. Really, 5 gal? Ok, so, looks like there is some Perlite in there. That last pic looks like it was starting to dry out. Stick your finger in there next time and wait until the top 2 inches are dry, then water again. Clay pots are hard to figure. I like plastic containers. Just pick them up, and when they are light, water again. You're on the right track. Just don't over-water. Let her dry out, no nutes for a couple weeks, and she'll be fine. Looks like she has 3 major branches (tops), with a lot of side-branching going on. Really full plant! I'm guessing watering once every 7-10 days?
 

howsitgrowin420

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you can transplant that. It won't be pretty and nobody will be happy, but you can do it. Let it dry out, jam your hands down around the edges a few times, get a grip and get her out.
 

BeginnerGrow420

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I was watering about once every 5 days but then I cut it back to every week and I've been testing the wetness of my soil with a meter so I've been trying to let it dry up as much as possible between waterings. Is it possible that I under watered her?
Yeah 5 gallons... It's a huge pot. I'm scared to transplant out of this pot honestly but I'm also worried about the drainage. That very dried look is starting on a few more leaves. And yes there are 3 main branches with 2 very strong side branches and then many small ones. (Nicely filled in)
 

Diabolical666

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Get that plant out of the clay pot. clay pots are bad mmmmmk? Get her into some nice fresh soil and just water her for a few weeks, she should come out fine. Give it just enough water to get it threw a couple days after it has adjusted to the transplant. Too much water if youre only watering once a week;)
 

BeginnerGrow420

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Get that plant out of the clay pot. clay pots are bad mmmmmk? Get her into some nice fresh soil and just water her for a few weeks, she should come out fine. Give it just enough water to get it threw a couple days after it has adjusted to the transplant. Too much water if youre only watering once a week;)
I know this pot is bad! I regret putting the plant in it. the pot is so big that i have no idea how to transplant that. I've only done transplants out of solo cups and small plastic pots. I'd love some help with this! i definitely dont want to kill her while transplanting. Also, all my soil is in this pot... i guess i'd need to buy another $30 bag? I've spent wayyyyy too much money on this one plant already
 

Diabolical666

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You might need an extra set of hands for the transplant. If you grab the plant by its stalk while the other person guides the roots out and into another pot. Go ahead and reuse the soil in the clay pot. Let her rest in the new pot for a month and research your nutes you will be using for flowertime;)
 

howsitgrowin420

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Plants bounce back from just about anything, she'll look really bad for a while, but she'll live. Let her dry out completely - it will make the transplant much easier. Loosen up the edges as best you can and tunnel your fingers down as deep as you can. If you can just lift her up and out, great. Chances are though that you'll end up tipping the pot on the side and kind of dragging her out. The stalk is to be used for guiding and not pulling.

Growing is expensive and that is something to consider for the future, I'm sure that your local full time grower would appreciate the extra business if this isn't your thing. For this grow, you could just find a drill tip that will be ok for the ceramic pot and then drill a bunch of holes around the bottom. For the next one, get some smart pots or other fabric containers.
 

BeginnerGrow420

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Plants bounce back from just about anything, she'll look really bad for a while, but she'll live. Let her dry out completely - it will make the transplant much easier. Loosen up the edges as best you can and tunnel your fingers down as deep as you can. If you can just lift her up and out, great. Chances are though that you'll end up tipping the pot on the side and kind of dragging her out. The stalk is to be used for guiding and not pulling.

Growing is expensive and that is something to consider for the future, I'm sure that your local full time grower would appreciate the extra business if this isn't your thing. For this grow, you could just find a drill tip that will be ok for the ceramic pot and then drill a bunch of holes around the bottom. For the next one, get some smart pots or other fabric containers.
Hey thanks for the advice. Can you advise me on what kind of tip to use? And also any tips on how to drill this pot without cracking it?
 

howsitgrowin420

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a masonry bit, go slow, put a piece of tape over where you are going to drill, pour some water on it while you drill. if it breaks it'll be a lot easier to transfer!
 
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