Leave Bush Alone

Resinman

Well-Known Member
August 5, 2002
The Bush administration sat on a Clinton-era plan to attack al-Qaida in Afghanistan for eight months because of political hostility to the outgoing president and competing priorities, it was reported yesterday.
The plan, under which special forces troops would have been sent after Osama bin Laden, was drawn up in the last days of the Clinton administration but a decision was left to the incoming Bush team.

However, a top-level discussion of the proposals took place only on September 4, a week before the al-Qaida attacks on New York and Washington. In the months in between, the plan was shuffled through the bureaucracy by an administration distrustful of anything to do with Bill Clinton and which appeared fixated on national missile defence and the war on drugs, rather than the struggle against terrorism.

The news emerged as the political truce that followed the terrorist attacks evaporates in the heat of the looming congressional elections in November. It represents the strongest indictment so far of the Bush team's preparedness for an attack.

The plan to take the counter-terrorist battle to al-Qaida was drafted after the attack on the warship the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. Mr Clinton's terrorism expert, Richard Clarke, presented it to senior officials in December, but it was decided that the decision should be taken by the new administration.
According to today's Time magazine, Mr Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger and Mr Clarke outlined the threat in briefings they provided for Condoleezza Rice, George Bush's national security adviser, in January 2001, a few weeks before she and her team took up their posts.

At the key briefing, Mr Clarke presented proposals to "roll back" al-Qaida which closely resemble the measures taken after September 11. Its financial network would be broken up and its assets frozen. Vulnerable countries like Uzbekistan, Yemen and the Philippines would be given aid to help them stamp out terrorist cells.

Crucially, the US would go after Bin Laden in his Afghan lair. Plans would be drawn up for combined air and special forces operations, while support would be channelled to the Northern Alliance in its fight against the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies.

Mr Clarke, who stayed on in his job as White House counter-terrorism tsar, repeated his briefing for vice president Dick Cheney in February. However, the proposals got lost in the clumsy transition process, turf wars between departments and the separate agendas of senior members of the Bush administration.
It was, the Time article argues, "a systematic collapse in the ability of Washington's national security apparatus to handle the terrorist threat".

Bush administration officials have played down the significance of the January briefings, describing them as simply advocating "a more active approach". Ms Rice issued a statement saying she did not even recall a briefing at which Mr Berger was present.
But the Time report quotes Bush officials as well as Clinton aides as confirming the seriousness of the Clarke plan. The sources said it was treated the same way as all policies inherited from the Clinton era, and subjected to a lengthy "policy review process".

The proposals were not re-examined by senior administration officials until April, and were not earmarked for consideration by the national security heads of department until September 4.
"If we hadn't had a transition," a senior Clinton administration official is quoted as saying, "probably in late October or early November 2000, we would have had [the plan to go on the offensive] as a presidential directive."

However, Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, was more interested in the national missile defence plan, and the new attorney general, John Ashcroft, was more interested in using the FBI to fight the "war on drugs" and clamping down on pornography. In August, he turned down FBI requests for $50m for the agency's counter-terrorist programme. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, appeals from the Northern Alliance's leader, Ahmed Shah Massoud, for more US aid fell on deaf ears. He was assassinated on September 9.
 

Resinman

Well-Known Member
president George W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."


president George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."


Lt.Colonel Steve Butler , Colonel's Letter

Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America . He did nothing to warn the American people, because he needed this war on terrorism. His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. He wasn't elected by the American people, but placed in the Oval Office by the conservative Supreme Court; the economy was sliding into the usual Republican pits and he needed something to hang his presidency on. This guy is a joke. His silence was sleazy and contemptible."
http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/pearly/htmls/butler-letter.html




Two Star General Donald Kerrick

"Clinton's advisors met nearly weekly on how to stop bin Laden ...
I didn't detect that kind of focus from the Bush adminsitration."

and last but least

"I don't believe any longer that it's a matter of connecting the dots.
I think they had a veritable blueprint and we want to know why they didn't act on it."
Senator Arlen Specter (R-pa)
 

Resinman

Well-Known Member
11. Summer 2001 – Russian intelligence notifies the CIA that 25 terrorist pilots have been specifically training for suicide missions. This is reported in the Russian press and news stories are translated for FTW by a retired CIA officer.

12. July 4-14, 2001 – Osama bin Laden receives treatments for kidney disease at the American hospital in Dubai and meets with a CIA official who returns to CIA headquarters on July 15th. [Source: Le Figaro, October 31st, 2001.]

13. August 2001 – Russian President Vladimir Putin orders Russian intelligence to warn the U.S. government “in the strongest possible terms” of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings. [Source: MS-NBC interview with Putin, September 15.]

14. August/September, 2001 – The Dow Jones Industrial Average drops nearly 900 points in the three weeks prior to the attack. A major stock market crash is imminent.

15. Sept. 3-10, 2001 – MS-NBC reports on September 16 that a caller to a Cayman Islands radio talk show gave several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S. by bin Laden in the week prior to 9/11.

16. September 1-10, 2001 – 25,000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part of Operation “Essential Harvest,” are pre-positioned in Oman, the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation “Bright Star.” All of these forces are in place before the first plane hits the World Trade Center. [Sources: The Guardian, CNN, FOX, The Observer, International Law Professor Francis Boyle, the University of Illinois.]

17. September 6-7, 2001 – 4,744 put options (a speculation that the stock will go down) are purchased on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call options (speculation that the stock will go up). This is a dramatic and abnormal increase in sales of put options. Many of the UAL puts are purchased through Deutschebank/AB Brown, a firm managed until 1998 by the current Executive Director of the CIA, A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard. [Source: The Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counterterrorism, ICT - International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, September 21; The New York Times; The Wall Street Journal.]

18. September 10, 2001 - 4,516 put options are purchased on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options. [Source: ICT – above] 19. September 6-11, 2001 - No other airlines show any similar trading patterns to those experienced by UAL and American. The put option purchases on both airlines were 600% above normal. This at a time when Reuters (September 10) issues a business report stating, “Airline stocks may be poised to take off.”

20. September 6-10, 2001 – Highly abnormal levels of put options are purchased in Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re(insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re. All of these companies are directly impacted by the September 11 attacks.

21. It has been documented that the CIA, the Israeli Mossad and many other intelligence agencies monitor stock trading in real time using highly advanced programs reported to be descended from Promis software. This is to alert national intelligence services of just such kinds of attacks. Promis was reported, as recently as June, 2001 to be in Osama bin Laden’s possession and, as a result of recent stories by FOX, both the FBI and the Justice Department have confirmed its use for U.S. intelligence gathering through at least this summer. This would confirm that CIA had additional advance warning of imminent attacks. [Sources: The Washington Times, June 15, 2001; FOX News, October 16, 2001; 22. September 11, 2001 – Gen Mahmud of the ISI (see above), friend of Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. [Source: MS-NBC, Oct. 7.]
 

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the widowman

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Bull crap:cuss: ... the fact that their was an attack on 911 shows this illegitimate regime's incompetence not to mention their involvement. Terrorism has increased in the world since they stole office and started this illegal war.:fire:

U.S. raises figures for 2003 terrorist attacks

Annual Terrorism Report Will Show 29% Rise in Attacks

Terror attacks worldwide rose 25 percent in ’06
yea if the democrats had won 2000 (al gore) then the twin tower attacks would'nt have happened, (probably) deff a safer world if the dems won but a better economy with republicans (should be). and by the way iam on planet jamaica tonight smoking jamaican pearl at the moment from sensiseeds VERY NICE i must say :bigjoint:
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
I'm not one to say that it would have been different had Al Gore won the Election (through the Supreme Court), But I'm sure that he would have implemented the plans drawn up to get Osama bin Laden in the last days of the Clinton Administration. But I can see that certain people are still falling for Karl Roves plan to divide the masses to achieve a political outcome.
 

Resinman

Well-Known Member
actually bin laden waited till bush got into office,,,

then had it done on 911

so embarrassing to bush,,,

kinda creepy when you think about it

resinman
 

medicineman

New Member
actually bin laden waited till bush got into office,,,

then had it done on 911

so embarrassing to bush,,,

kinda creepy when you think about it

resinman
Yeah, especially when you review the history of the Bin-Laden-Bush relationship. They had a long financial relationship, the Bin-Ladens gave Dubya his start in the oil business, Harken energy, which Bush fucked up royally, partying and snorting coke, They then bought him out for a huge profit allowing him to buy into the Texas Rangers. You should read Bushwhacked By Molly Ivens, lays out Bush's career before his becoming president. He was a huge loser and was propped up by Bin-Laden money all along through the Carlyle group. Ever wonder why all the Bin-Laden family were the only ones allowed to fly out of the country after 911, they sent 19 planes throughout the country gathering the Bin-Ladens and their posessions and hurried them to Saudi Arabia.
 

murbs929

Active Member
what i dont get is that millions of mexicans come into our country every year but, a sophisticated group of terrorists trying to sabotage america havent been able to sneak in again and have another attack since 2001?? honestly its all bout the illuminati, Bush, clinton, obama, it doesnt matter government is just a distraction from the real people in power who ddont give a fuck bout any of us
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Yeah to convenient.
Not one suicide bomber, Not one dude with a Russian shoulder launched AA missile, nothing.
Bush was to interested in being "Commander and Chief" rather then an mere President,
IMO, He wanted to be a wartime president, makes it easier to be the "desider."
I'm not saying 9-11 was an inside job. But nothing would suprise me at this point.

I don't trust the Government, we have suffered through to much of their shit IMO.
Older folks have it in their heads that the Government always wear the white hat,
that the Cavalry is on the way. Yeah right, to vaccinate us or lock us in the super-dome.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Wait a minute ... not ALL old folk think that government wears the white hat. This old folk thinks that government is dangerous as hell. Anyone who looks at the way Obama has jacked up the spending and thinks he will make us a freer nation as a result has rocks in his/her head.

When it comes to spending, Obama is Bush on mega-steroids.

Vi
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
You know what I mean the people who buy this 1950's Americana good Government nonsence.
I wish I could trust the Government. But you can never trust them, they have all the force.
You must watch them like a fuckin' hawk! I'll be damned if I will let the US turn into the Next Nazi Germany!
 

olosto

New Member
Wait a minute ... not ALL old folk think that government wears the white hat. This old folk thinks that government is dangerous as hell. Anyone who looks at the way Obama has jacked up the spending and thinks he will make us a freer nation as a result has rocks in his/her head.

When it comes to spending, Obama is Bush on mega-steroids.

Vi

You just cannot stay on topic, lol. As soon as someone offers up a real post you ignore it and attack something else. How republican of you.
 

ViRedd

New Member
You just cannot stay on topic, lol. As soon as someone offers up a real post you ignore it and attack something else. How republican of you.
On the contrary, lad. Evidently you don't read all the posts completely through. I was responding to Ilkhan's statement:

"Older folks have it in their heads that the Government always wear the white hat, that the Cavalry is on the way."


And why you continue to confuse those who speak out in defense of individual liberty, free minds, free markets and limited government, as "Republicans" is beyond me. Perhaps you can explain ...

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
On the contrary, lad. Evidently you don't read all the posts completely through. I was responding to Ilkhan's statement:

"Older folks have it in their heads that the Government always wear the white hat, that the Cavalry is on the way."


And why you continue to confuse those who speak out in defense of individual liberty, free minds, free markets and limited government, as "Republicans" is beyond me. Perhaps you can explain ...

Vi
In other words, you fucking ignorant young commie whippersnapper, go fuck yourself.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Well, didn't Churchhill say;
"If your 20 and not a socialist you have no heart,
if your 40 and your still a socialist you have no brain."

At least you progressives hearts are in the right place.
So you've got that going for you.
LOL

God I'm bad :D
 

Splinter88

Well-Known Member
My professor said Bush might be remembered differently in 20 years or so...

Seeing how many dislike him, i doubt it. Especially if 9/11 does turn out to be an inside job. I don't want it to be, but like the other guy said, i wouldn't be surprised at this point.

what if obama gets 4 more years? Just imagine what the world will be like in 2016.

Nvm, lots of possibilities in 2012-2013 so who knows.:wall:
 
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