Leaves are hardened and curled down and some brown spots/tips.. PLEASE HELP

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mmccasland92

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I bought my seeds from seedsman and all of my plants died I couldn't get them to last two weeks without developing problems. These are my last three seeds, while Og kush. So these last two exceeded my expectations and did the best out of all of them so I was super excited I finally got a good root structure and they are finally the right size for their age. They are only 9 days old and they looked amazing before I went on my 4th of July trip. When I came back, the one still looked healthy it just looks like it has a tad bit of yellow on the leaves. However, the second one looks horrible in just a matter of two days :( I'm so disappointed. The leaves have hardened and are curled downwards! They have lost all their moisture content....it looks like. So I checked the pH of the soil and it was 7.3 which is obviously too high, I got it down to 6.5. The PPM was also out of whack somehow and was up to 2000 so I flushed it back down to 200. It's been another two days and it doesn't look any better and looks slightly worse so I have no clue what to do but man I don't wanna lose this one, he was doing so good....the only picture I could find online that is remotely close to what mine looks like says that it's a mixture of being too hot and being over watered. The overwatering is possible but not it being too hot. My grow room stays between 68°F & 75°F. This is also my first grow ever. I've been researching for months and I can't figure out why it's not bouncing back after I fixed the obvious issues stated above. Does anyone have any advice on what's going on with this guy? The first pic is the healthy one and what they both looked like days ago and the rest of of the one I'm having issues with.
 

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Devils34

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I have a rule of thumb especially for small plants (like my 2) (1st grow)

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I only water enough to wet the top layer of soil.....i understand once in a while accidently putting more, but thats my rule of thumb to prevent over watering....it may need to be watered everyday at some points using this rule....other times its good for multiple days.

One of the ONLY mistakes during this 1st grow that's i 100% haven't done is over watering......i have nute burned, but never too much water....if you water them and its not enough, the plant will tell you and the soil will be dry quickly.
 
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mmccasland92

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Sooo in my first run I mixed ocean forest fox farm soil and mother earth coco w perlite I did a 60/40 mix and for some reason had the worst pH issues well I ran out of that in my last run when everything died...I spent $1400 on all of my equipment so I literally don't have any extra funds at all until next week. I have a garden outside so I used the miracle grow soil I know I'm not supposed to use it because it's hot but I flushed all the nutes out until the ppm read 200 so I figured it would be fine for a week and for some reason they aren't growing at all until I out them in the flushed miracle grow soil then they grew like crazy. Critical purple kush, northern lights, blueberry, and other white ogs 15 seeds total all have failed except for these two. I have a third but he is stunted and I'm just keeping him around to see what he does so I didn't post him he's growing better than this messed up one is actually. But anyways, Im going to switch as soon as I can but I didn't think it would be an issue if they were flushed. For some odd reason the messed up one had the soil ppm back up to 2000 maybe I rushed and didn't flush him but that doesn't make much sense bc he grew like crazy and just fine for this last week. Maybe I didn't flush him and the nutes gave him a shock and he grew and now the nutes are overloading him? I've thought of a million things and researched a million things. I've researched nite burn and high pH pics and it doesn't look like this. Also, the only reason I opted for this is because I saw an article of someone else having a successful grow seed to harvest in flushed miracle grow so I thought It couldn't hurt for a week..I think mixing the coco and soil at first so close to 50/50 that it didn't know if it wanted Coco coir pH or soil pH levels bc the whole time my ph was out of whack I had to buy peat moss to lower it then garden lime to raise it I've gone through so much with all this I thought it would be easier considering I have a huge garden outside with almost every plant you can think of so idk why I can't grow these. I'm so frustrated. I should have grown in purely ocean forest only and that's what I'm going to do as soon as I can afford it. But does this look like high pH/high nutes? I fixed both of these issues and it's not bouncing back.... :(
 
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GrowingAbroad

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Looks way to wet if you ask me, do you have holes on the bottom of what you're using? One or two of them look like clay pots?
This mean no air from the bottom and the water can't drain away. Mu guess is you drowned them.
 
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mmccasland92

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They were in solo cups with about 10 holes on the bottom I just transferred them to these clay pots last night and the clay pots have one big hole in the middle at the bottom But it was doing this with solo cups with plenty of drainage but I did have bags over them to help keep the humidity up while I was gone in case my neighbor didn't fill up my dehumidifier so I think because of that they may have had too much water but the weird thing is that bitch plants have had the exact same everything so why would one be having issues and the other one isn't?
 
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mmccasland92

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I think it is from being overwatered though I just don't know why one would be having issues and the other one isn't and why I can't find any pics that look like mine
 
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HocaOyundaa

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Devils34 said:
I have a rule of thumb especially for small plants (like my 2) (1st grow)

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I only water enough to wet the top layer of soil.....i understand once in a while accidently putting more, but thats my rule of thumb to prevent over watering....it may need to be watered everyday at some points using this rule....other times its good for multiple days.

One of the ONLY mistakes during this 1st grow that's i 100% haven't done is over watering......i have nute burned, but never too much water....if you water them and its not enough, the plant will tell you and the soil will be dry quickly.
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How you convinced her to flower :) is it cuz of the seed or your way of growing ? I' really like to know , thanks
 
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GrowingAbroad

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mmccasland92 said:
They were in solo cups with about 10 holes on the bottom I just transferred them to these clay pots last night and the clay pots have one big hole in the middle at the bottom But it was doing this with solo cups with plenty of drainage but I did have bags over them to help keep the humidity up while I was gone in case my neighbor didn't fill up my dehumidifier so I think because of that they may have had too much water but the weird thing is that bitch plants have had the exact same everything so why would one be having issues and the other one isn't?
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I wouldn't recommend clay pots to be honest. For one the plants are having a hard time breathing and the water doesn't evaporate fast enough.
Also seed plant's don't need a high humidity seeing thy have a different root system compared to clones, An average of 40% is enough. So that could be ure problem seeing the plant get enough from the leaves and therefor don't or barely drink using they're roots and that causes the overwatering a lot faster then usual.

You could transplant them carefully into new and better pots and new soil and stop watering for a few days, you should see a huge difference i think.

If you're able to get them i would recommend fabric pots.
Air get's through 360 degrees which is better foor you're roots and it's a lot harder to overwater, barely impossible actually.
 
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Devils34

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HocaOyundaa said:
How you convinced her to flower :) is it cuz of the seed or your way of growing ? I' really like to know , thanks
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Well, like I said, its my first grow....i flipped too early, simple as that. Didnt veg long enough. I expected them to 2-3x when flipped, instead the bubblegum grew about an inch and a half, the azure haze grew about 1/2 an inch to an inch lol lesson learned to research the strains before growing. I thought azure haze would be like 60/40 or even 55/45 and have a stretch, especially being blueberry is known as a "stretch indica"

The bubblegum ive only smoked the sativa leaning version, which is like 60/40....so even a 60/40 indica I'd expect at least 1/3rd stretch.....i got hardly any stretch.
 
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GrowingAbroad

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Devils34 said:
Well, like I said, its my first grow....i flipped too early, simple as that. Didnt veg long enough. I expected them to 2-3x when flipped, instead the bubblegum grew about an inch and a half, the azure haze grew about 1/2 an inch to an inch lol lesson learned to research the strains before growing. I thought azure haze would be like 60/40 or even 55/45 and have a stretch, especially being blueberry is known as a "stretch indica"

The bubblegum ive only smoked the sativa leaning version, which is like 60/40....so even a 60/40 indica I'd expect at least 1/3rd stretch.....i got hardly any stretch.
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All plants stretch no matter what species it is. You probably had different problems.
1, You're leaves look way to dark especially at the end.
2. you burned your leaves which is caused by over feeding and.

These are a few things that can easily effect the growth of a plant and stunt it.
 
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Hollatchaboy

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GrowingAbroad said:
All plants stretch no matter what species it is. You probably had different problems.
1, You're leaves look way to dark especially at the end.
2. you burned your leaves which is caused by over feeding and.

These are a few things that can easily effect the growth of a plant and stunt it.
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Pot size.
 
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Devils34

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GrowingAbroad said:
All plants stretch no matter what species it is. You probably had different problems.
1, You're leaves look way to dark especially at the end.
2. you burned your leaves which is caused by over feeding and.

These are a few things that can easily effect the growth of a plant and stunt it.
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Thanks. Youre the first to explain that to me, at least in a way I understand. Live and learn lol. The good news is my Bubblegum smells exactly like the bubblegum i get at the dispensary, its amazing. And the azure haze would pass as 100% blueberry....it only smells of blueberry.
 
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