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Leaves are turning a silver white

habanerojefe

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Some of my indoor plants' leaves look like they're bleaching out (not yellowing) like a shiney silver color. What could it be?

tia

hab
 

KAOSOWNER

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could be iron def, sulfur def, or copper def, it is hard to tell without pics. make sure your ph is right and your nutes have micro nutrients in it

oh and welcome to RIU
 

habanerojefe

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the color is fairly accurate.

This is my 2nd grow. The only thing different is that they're almost always indoors. I was using MG Rose fertilizer on this crop... but I stopped, fearing it was the cause. I balanced the ph with a little vinager (6.5 - 7)

hab

And thanks, it's good to be here. I'm learning a lot.
 

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KAOSOWNER

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well it is not zinc, zinc usually works from the outside of the leaf inwards, it is either sulfur or iron deficency. add some nutrients with micronutrients in it at a small dose maybe 1/4 strength.
 

smokeybandit22

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need more info tia-like age, lights, nutes, schedule. more pics would be helpful. obivously it is something that is going to appear hard to diagnose correctly without these things. most likely had to do with that rose stuff you fed her so more info on that as well-who, what,when ,where,how long, nute ratios, ect.
This way you will somewhat limit responses here to at a minimum half valid.
overall they look very healthy, very good tone of green in them.
 

smokeybandit22

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really? sulfer or iron def? well sulfur usually starts from the top and Iron can not be ruled out at this point. nothing can be ruled out at this point as it is in the very early stages. I do agree however that a dose of micro nutes should solve it but something is causing the lockout so check and double check your ph and the nutes you are feeding it for suffecient levels of macro and micro nutes. really only an off ph would cause a lockout or using a non balanced nute would cause the def., I would go with the former. could be simply something in that rose food was too high in something and caused a lockout of whatever it is you are experiencing.
thus the questions, particulary what are the ingrediants in the rose fertiziler. if it is extremely high in one, than simple research will tell you that it would cause a lockout of another.
nothing is so cut and dry whereupon you can rely on one picture with no information to properly diagnose the issue. Boy i hope my doctor wouldn't take one look at a bruise and tell me I need a bandaid when there is an underlying problem that was not discovered b/c I didnt give him the specifics.
Please point out to me where, anywhere, where it states silver coloring of a leaf and I will eat my words.
It would help if we knew the soil so we can figure out if something is in there. Also habanorgefre, it looks like she can use a bit more nitrogen if she is stillin veg- a little on the light green side. ph, ph, ph.
 

KAOSOWNER

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in my first post i told him to check ph, if ph is correct he needs to add some micro nutes, pretty simple. i dont think it is caused by to much nutes of any kind but a lack of, or bad ph. Iron def will cause leaves to turn pale yellow to white
 

smokeybandit22

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again, I agree with you. my guess is bad ph but it would be nice to know what was in that feed and what type of soil growing in.

what say you about the nitrogen?
 

KAOSOWNER

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if the ph is bad i wouldnt add any nutes until it is righted. but on the other hand i give my ladies nitrogen through there entire life including flowering, until the final flush.
 

smokeybandit22

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man that Nitrogen can be such a tricky player if you have different strands. I have had one strain that I stopped giving N to like 4 weeks out and flushed for 2 more and still her fan leaves were nice lush green. too much at anyone is easy to do. too little at the wrong time is easy to do. how do you vary your Nitrogen routine from start to veg to switch to flower-to mid to late flower to final?
 

KAOSOWNER

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when i feed i use a ppm meter, i use the ppm meter wether in soil or hydro. it really helps to maximize your nutrient levels. if i feed one week with say 600 ppm and the plant takes it like a champ then i up the dose until i see 1/16th - 1/8th of the leaftip burn with nute burn. My super silver haze needs less nitrogen then my white widow. but my routine in general is as such

no nutes to about 4 or 5 nodes depending on leaf size and bushiness as to wether 4 or 5 nodes

then i usually start around 200 ppm combined nutrient reading ( N.P.K + micro's ) i usually feed between 200 - 400ppm till the plant is around 1ft in height. never less than 200 usually never more than 400ppm. Bushiness and leaf size play a role as in to how much the plant can uptake

since i usually start to flower my ladies at around 18" i up the dose to around 450 - 650ppm's until they reach the desired height. 1 week prior to 12/12 i give 1 dose of bloom nutes and 1 dose of veg. i will continue to use 1/4 strength veg nutes with a full dose of bloom nutes ppms between 700 and 900ppms sometimes depending on the strain i will go up to 1000 - 1200ppm,s until the final 2 weeks where it is just plain water sometimes water and molasses. mind you my ppm readings are on the 500x scale

this is not going to strain specific. because like i stated earlier my super silver haze doesnt need that much nitrogen, So i could stop using veg nutes with her 4 weeks to the end. but i like to keep as many leaves as green as possible until i chop. In my experience it really helps with bag appeal as well as plant health.
 

smokeybandit22

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damn bro, you reading my play book? I think my #'s are almost dead even with yours and the routine as well. I do the same shit with the leaf tip. I though I was the only one who used a little bit of veg nutes throughout. The only thing I do diff is I give the newbies a bit of the bloom as well b/c they come from clones and usually always show a P deficiency albeit slight. Sometimes I will kick up a certain nute if i see she needs it. You have some nice strains, mine are outdoor strain being grown indoors DWC so they are bit more needy.
++Rep to you.
 
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