Leaves curling upwards

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

I’m curious as to why my leaves are looking like this ? I recently been using a Prozap insect guard which is air born to bugs & insects & diatomaceous for my soil which, I’m thinking it could be that but I’m not to sure any advice?

Budzbuddha · Apr 30, 2024

You should be aware of the hazards when using that strip -

Not for use in areas in which humans are present for more than 4 hours at a time. As far as leaf , it looks like a stress response since stems look dark and dodgy. Most likely other reasons at play.

Budzbuddha · Apr 30, 2024

Give us more info.

Lights
Strain
Medium
Nutes ( feeding )
Water
Ph
Temps / RH

This way we can see more of the situation.

Side note : Diatomaceous Earth is worthless once it becomes wet. There are better options like mosquito dunks / etc. to deal with soil pest issues.

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
Give us more info.

Lights
Strain
Medium
Nutes ( feeding )
Water
Ph
Temps / RH

This way we can see more of the situation.

Side note : Diatomaceous Earth is worthless once it becomes wet. There are better options like mosquito dunks / etc. to deal with soil pest issues.

Vivosun & mars hydro lights
Sticky buns
Fox farm ocean forest
Flora series
Tap water
No ph

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
You should be aware of the hazards when using that strip -

Not for use in areas in which humans are present for more than 4 hours at a time. As far as leaf , it looks like a stress response since stems look dark and dodgy. Most likely other reasons at play.

Most definitely I grow in my back room where any one hardly steps foot

Budzbuddha · Apr 30, 2024

Drewhefner said:
Most definitely I grow in my back room where any one hardly steps foot

Multiple strips create a vapor hazard.

How long has it been in FFOF soil ?

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
Multiple strips create a vapor hazard.

How long has it been in FFOF soil ?

The diatomaceous earth ?

Beeswings · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
Multiple strips create a vapor hazard.

How long has it been in FFOF soil ?

Right I'd take that strip out and just see what a sticky yellow trap does. No need to introduce insecticide into the air your plant is breathing that you plan on smoking if you really don't have to.

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Beeswings said:
Right I'd take that strip out and just see what a sticky yellow trap does. No need to introduce insecticide into the air your plant is breathing that you plan on smoking if you really don't have to.

I only put it in there cause mites were getting outta hand, only had in tent for 3 days it’s out now and yes I have sticky traps as well

Beeswings · Apr 30, 2024

How much Cal mag have you been giving and when did you start? Sort of looks like calcium excess, causing nitrogen excess, iron and magnesium def.

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Beeswings said:
How much Cal mag have you been giving and when did you start? Sort of looks like calcium excess, causing nitrogen excess, iron and magnesium def.

1tsp of cal mag per gallon & when did I start growing ? Or when did I start this batch ?

Budzbuddha · Apr 30, 2024

FFOF is pretty nute dense right out of bag and can power a plant for weeks by itself.

Feeding ( recharging ) can be done simply by adding more fresh soil to containers ( top dressing ).
No other nute lines necessary. You are probably facing antagonism between different nute sources ( I.E. adding flora series on top of the already nute charged soil ). And you said “ no ph “ which would be done to that liquid line when using.

Straight soil , no ph is fine.

Diatomaceous Earth once wet becomes a messy slurry and just kind of causes issues.

Fungus gnats can happen in soil bags but there are less heavy handed ways to control ( yellow stickies - adult flyers ) and dunks for soil drenching.

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
FFOF is pretty nute dense right out of bag and can power a plant for weeks by itself.

Feeding ( recharging ) can be done simply by adding more fresh soil to containers ( top dressing ).
No other nute lines necessary. You are probably facing antagonism between different nute sources ( I.E. adding flora series on top of the already nute charged soil ). And you said “ no ph “ which would be done to that liquid line when using.

Straight soil , no ph is fine.

Diatomaceous Earth once wet becomes a messy slurry and just kind of causes issues.

Fungus gnats can happen in soil bags but there are less heavy handed ways to control ( yellow stickies - adult flyers ) and dunks for soil drenching.

Alright yea that makes sense im recharging, feeding, not phing, and added diatomaceous earth. That has to be the problem

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

Budzbuddha said:
FFOF is pretty nute dense right out of bag and can power a plant for weeks by itself.

Feeding ( recharging ) can be done simply by adding more fresh soil to containers ( top dressing ).
No other nute lines necessary. You are probably facing antagonism between different nute sources ( I.E. adding flora series on top of the already nute charged soil ). And you said “ no ph “ which would be done to that liquid line when using.

Straight soil , no ph is fine.

Diatomaceous Earth once wet becomes a messy slurry and just kind of causes issues.

Fungus gnats can happen in soil bags but there are less heavy handed ways to control ( yellow stickies - adult flyers ) and dunks for soil drenching.

So should I just give water for few days with no recharge and no nutes?

weedstoner420 · Apr 30, 2024

Why are you using the Prozap thing in the first place? Doesn't sound like something I'd want around my plants that I'm going to ingest later...

Edit nvm I see the bit about mites. They don't really go down to the soil so I don't think the DE would do anything for them either

I agree with Budz above, looks like they're a bit overfed (or unbalanced feed)...

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

weedstoner420 said:
Why are you using the Prozap thing in the first place? Doesn't sound like something I'd want around my plants that I'm going to ingest later...

Spider mites & fungus nats, it was suggested to me

weedstoner420 · Apr 30, 2024

Drewhefner said:
Spider mites & fungus nats, it was suggested to me

Sorry, I saw you mentioned that after I posted...

Simple stuff like citric acid can work to knock back spider mites, or at least keep them under control, especially in veg. Or beneficial insects, they will never build up an immunity to getting eaten. If it's not a full-on infestation, the squish by hand method can also be pretty effective.

Fungus gnats are more of a nuisance than anything. Sticky traps will catch a lot of the flyers, letting the top couple inches of soil dry out will slow them down, and also "mosquito bits" from the hardware store will kill their larvae

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

weedstoner420 said:
Sorry, I saw you mentioned that after I posted...

Simple stuff like citric acid can work to knock back spider mites, or at least keep them under control, especially in veg. Or beneficial insects, they will never build up an immunity to getting eaten. If it's not a full-on infestation, the squish by hand method can also be pretty effective.

I haven’t tried that but I’ll give it a try if spites mites come along again, but I did try hand squishing but they were getting outta hand so I used prozap which removes within a day or so

Drewhefner · Apr 30, 2024

weedstoner420 said:
Sorry, I saw you mentioned that after I posted...

Simple stuff like citric acid can work to knock back spider mites, or at least keep them under control, especially in veg. Or beneficial insects, they will never build up an immunity to getting eaten. If it's not a full-on infestation, the squish by hand method can also be pretty effective.

Fungus gnats are more of a nuisance than anything. Sticky traps will catch a lot of the flyers, letting the top couple inches of soil dry out will slow them down, and also "mosquito bits" from the hardware store will kill their larvae

So what can I do as of now to revive them and get them happy and healthy again ?

Budzbuddha · Apr 30, 2024

See post #17

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