Leaves turning yellow week 2 of flower (outdoor)

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Tcrook0069

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So this is my 1st ever grow. Literally found a nice looking seed in a batch of what i believe was Cherry Pie. Threw it in a large pot with leftover soil from the wifes spring planting. And let it go naturally. The only thing ive done is water during dry weeks and the wife hit it twice with some leftover Miracle Gro, once in june and once in july.
Everytjing was going great, couldnt believe it actually sprouted and took off so well, and was actually a Female!! Now that ive made it to early flower stages i really want to tend her and make sure shes getting everything she needs. Ive noticed multiple fan leaves turning yellow in the past week, and am scared it is either lacking a nutrient or has been over watered due to heavy rain for the last week...PLEASE HELP! PICS ATTACHED.
 

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PDiddyDank

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You need more nitrogen. No need to go overboard though. Fertilizer along the lines like 10-8-8 for example. Do not use miracle grow and avoid slow release formula. Fox Farms Grow Big is a good example. Use a couple times and observe. Once your plant is back to being a little more green, start to switch to flower nutes with reduced N.
 
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Tcrook0069

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Ok awesome thanks. You said no Miracle Gro, is there a reason for that? A friend of mine recommended Miracle Gro Tomato feed...
 
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PDiddyDank

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Tcrook0069 said:
Ok awesome thanks. You said no Miracle Gro, is there a reason for that? A friend of mine recommended Miracle Gro Tomato feed...
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MG tends to be too strong for MJ or the fertilizer ratio is not ideal. A lot of it tends to be slow release, which you do not want.

For example, that Tomato feed you mentioned is 18-18-21. Way to hot of fertilizer. I’ve given you the knowledge of what to look for. Use that to find a fertilizer that fits the bill. Your plants are in flower, so you need to be especially careful about what you give her. Lots more supplemental information on the internets too ;-) Good luck!
 
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TychoMonolyth

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It's normal. The plant is going thru senescence a little early because it's hungry.
Give it one or two last feedings of high N, then switch to bloom/flower food. LowN-HighP-MedK
If you continue with too much N once you're in full flower, you're likely to induce fox tailing.
 
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PDiddyDank

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Tcrook0069 said:
What is foxtailing?! And how long does outdoor flower stage last? 7 weeks?
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My man, do a google search about fox tailing. A lot of info about it on the net.

Outdoor flowering takes longer than indoors. Depends on strain and where your located geographically. Typically 60-90 days. From looking at your pics, it looks like yourabout 1/3rd of the way through flower.
 
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Tcrook0069

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Thanks. I know google can be very informative, but why join a chat forum if im just going to google everything? Figured people here MIGHT have a little more knowledge than Google. Dont feel it necessary to respond if it is a hassle for you. Thanks again for all of your helpful tips.
 
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PDiddyDank

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Why does anyone want to write a long essay on what fox tailing is or what causes it when that information (and much more) is literally at your fingertips in an instant? People should educate themselves on the basics and then ask for help if they still can’t figure it out or need clarification. It’s a help me, help you situation. If you don’t want to take the time to educate yourself on the basics, then I doubt people are going to want to take the time to explain everything little thing to you. Check out sites like growweedeasy to get comprehensive information and to learn the basics. :peace:
 
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Tcrook0069

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Ive done plenty of research myself, and alot of it doesnt match up. Which is why i decided to ask for help. And in all the research ive done, not once did i hear anything about "foxtailing". For instance, i did research for feeding and found sites/people that said MG was perfectly fine to use...and then other people say its bad to use. Ive seen people say you have to top your plants, and others recommend not doing so, etc. Like i said im a 1st timer and just trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have 1 final question for the group...
Should i remove the leaves that are discolored or just let it go? Again, i thank you for all of your time and help!
 
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PDiddyDank

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Tcrook0069 said:
Ive done plenty of research myself, and alot of it doesnt match up. Which is why i decided to ask for help. And in all the research ive done, not once did i hear anything about "foxtailing". For instance, i did research for feeding and found sites/people that said MG was perfectly fine to use...and then other people say its bad to use. Ive seen people say you have to top your plants, and others recommend not doing so, etc. Like i said im a 1st timer and just trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have 1 final question for the group...
Should i remove the leaves that are discolored or just let it go? Again, i thank you f
Tcrook0069 said:
Ive done plenty of research myself, and alot of it doesnt match up. Which is why i decided to ask for help. And in all the research ive done, not once did i hear anything about "foxtailing". For instance, i did research for feeding and found sites/people that said MG was perfectly fine to use...and then other people say its bad to use. Ive seen people say you have to top your plants, and others recommend not doing so, etc. Like i said im a 1st timer and just trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have 1 final question for the group...
Should i remove the leaves that are discolored or just let it go? Again, i thank you for all of your time and help!
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That’s the problem with forums. You get good information and bad information. If you visit a site like grow weed easy, you will get factual, useful information. For example:

www.growweedeasy.com

What Are Marijuana Foxtails? Good or Bad for Buds? | Grow Weed Easy

What makes long thin buds grow on top of your regular buds? And when is fox-tailing perfectly normal? Also, why do new white pistils keep appearing on almost-done buds?
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com

You can gently tug on the yellow leaf and take it off (if it’s ready it will effortlessly come off) or it will drop on its own. Keep the leaf on if it still has green left in it. Remove yellow leaf if it’s covering a bud site ;-)
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I would personally leave them on. They will fall off on there own or begin to sag at which point a light tug will make them fall. People will say there sucking up valuable nutes. Just let th plant use em up and it will drop them
 
TychoMonolyth

TychoMonolyth

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Tcrook0069 said:
What is foxtailing?! And how long does outdoor flower stage last? 7 weeks?
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Flowering time is strain dependent. Like @PDiddyDank said, if the strain is flagged as indoor/outdoor, add a week or two (sometimes 3) to the listed flowering time. Why? Because of your Latitude. Up here, we get 16 hours of day light, and flowering usually starts about mid/end of august at about 14 hrs of day light (not 12). I suspect the wavelengths (more red) is the cause. Makes it risky with long flowering, low altitude sativas.


Fox tailing, like this extreme example (there are much more extreme examples), is when the calyxes stack instead of fattening up.
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Even when it's not extreme the buds won't be as dense and bag appeal will be affected. In any case, it makes trimming a pain in the ass. And some strains are prone to fox tailing. It doesn't take away from the THC content so it's still good.

Fox tailing is natural for many plants
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Personally, I don't mind my personal weed fox tailing a bit. Some of the most beautiful flower I've ever seen was fox tailed.
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(not mine)


Cheers.
 
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Tcrook0069 said:
Ive done plenty of research myself, and alot of it doesnt match up. Which is why i decided to ask for help. And in all the research ive done, not once did i hear anything about "foxtailing". For instance, i did research for feeding and found sites/people that said MG was perfectly fine to use...and then other people say its bad to use. Ive seen people say you have to top your plants, and others recommend not doing so, etc. Like i said im a 1st timer and just trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have 1 final question for the group...
Should i remove the leaves that are discolored or just let it go? Again, i thank you for all of your time and help!
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I joined for the same reason. A lot of conflicting advice on Google.
 
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Pete Jones III

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Tcrook0069 said:
Ive done plenty of research myself, and alot of it doesnt match up. Which is why i decided to ask for help. And in all the research ive done, not once did i hear anything about "foxtailing". For instance, i did research for feeding and found sites/people that said MG was perfectly fine to use...and then other people say its bad to use. Ive seen people say you have to top your plants, and others recommend not doing so, etc. Like i said im a 1st timer and just trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have 1 final question for the group...
Should i remove the leaves that are discolored or just let it go? Again, i thank you for all of your time and help!
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MG is fine bro. I used to be confused by all the negative information online about MG. Until I researched their fertilizer metal contents on several independent testing sites. MG has no more heavy metal content than Jacks or Schulz or any other salt makers.
SALTS IS SALTS they just come in different ratios and prices. I've grown a few test plants using 18-18-21 in flower.. and a cross of 24-8-16 and 18-18-21 in veg....and they came out fine. No black ash burning it, no headaches. Totally normal, unlike what some people try to convince you online. Salts are salts
 
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Dapper_Dillinger

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Tcrook0069 said:
Thanks. I know google can be very informative, but why join a chat forum if im just going to google everything? Figured people here MIGHT have a little more knowledge than Google. Dont feel it necessary to respond if it is a hassle for you. Thanks again for all of your helpful tips.
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That's why you Google the stuff like "what is foxtailing" then come back to clarify your questions , I believe Tyco was right on his advice there's so much info on this sight if you look, I'm sure if you would've spent a little time on Google or where ever you would've known not to use miracle grow and why, but you've made it this far and your plant is still flowering give it the proper food and it will reward your time and effort with plenty delicious flowers.
 
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