Haven't found anything yet. That's why I bought the dried rice hulls. When I got the clones they had bugs and the guy at the hydro store said to use that. Haven't seen any since. Only thing I found since then was a spider. And the bugs were treated before I put them in the tent.
Leaves won't stop drooping.
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I'm a keen led grower and have been growing with led for years. I'd like to show you something. Click on the link to my journal in the sig. The Budmaster journal. Then go to page 18 and look at the veg tent at the top of the page. I used a very strong direct led which had similar effects. I also took good photo's. My point is you will see how an led will destroy plants in just 6 days. Then read the rest of the journal. (1 page)
I have had very similar problems to this. I believe a problem you're having is caused by having the led far too close.
What you want to do is stick the led the top of then tent and let theose ladies stretch up. Those have 5w leds and will stress the piss out of your plants otherwise.
I think when the plants get bigger, they can handle it a bit more, but still, let them grow up to the light.
In veg I like my canopy temps 81.5f. In early flowering 79f, but when buds pack weight on I go to 73.
So you put the led at the top of the tent. The next most important thing is humidity. You need a humid environment when growing under led, or the grow will be fairly crap. So with the led at the top of the tent, you don't need to suck out as much air, so the humidity will go up. Keep upping the temps until your humidity is stable at 65% rh after waterings, around 55% for the next 2 days, then will go to around 45% when they need watering again. Don't pick the temps, pick the humidity. The temps are what they are when your humidity is perfect.
Do that and watch them
I have had very similar problems to this. I believe a problem you're having is caused by having the led far too close.
What you want to do is stick the led the top of then tent and let theose ladies stretch up. Those have 5w leds and will stress the piss out of your plants otherwise.
I think when the plants get bigger, they can handle it a bit more, but still, let them grow up to the light.
In veg I like my canopy temps 81.5f. In early flowering 79f, but when buds pack weight on I go to 73.
So you put the led at the top of the tent. The next most important thing is humidity. You need a humid environment when growing under led, or the grow will be fairly crap. So with the led at the top of the tent, you don't need to suck out as much air, so the humidity will go up. Keep upping the temps until your humidity is stable at 65% rh after waterings, around 55% for the next 2 days, then will go to around 45% when they need watering again. Don't pick the temps, pick the humidity. The temps are what they are when your humidity is perfect.
Do that and watch them
Holy cow thanks for the long post. Will do that with the light as soon as I get home. Haven't watered In days so the humidity is in fact lower than it normally is. Will check and adjust to what you said. On break I'll check that journal you linked. Thanks a ton.I'm a keen led grower and have been growing with led for years. I'd like to show you something. Click on the link to my journal in the sig. The Budmaster journal. Then go to page 18 and look at the veg tent at the top of the page. I used a very strong direct led which had similar effects. I also took good photo's. My point is you will see how an led will destroy plants in just 6 days. Then read the rest of the journal. (1 page)
I have had very similar problems to this. I believe a problem you're having is caused by having the led far too close.
What you want to do is stick the led the top of then tent and let theose ladies stretch up. Those have 5w leds and will stress the piss out of your plants otherwise.
I think when the plants get bigger, they can handle it a bit more, but still, let them grow up to the light.
In veg I like my canopy temps 81.5f. In early flowering 79f, but when buds pack weight on I go to 73.
So you put the led at the top of the tent. The next most important thing is humidity. You need a humid environment when growing under led, or the grow will be fairly crap. So with the led at the top of the tent, you don't need to suck out as much air, so the humidity will go up. Keep upping the temps until your humidity is stable at 65% rh after waterings, around 55% for the next 2 days, then will go to around 45% when they need watering again. Don't pick the temps, pick the humidity. The temps are what they are when your humidity is perfect.
Do that and watch them
Just plain phd water?+ spray them with water twice a day! They will grow super fast
I bubble tap water for about 12 hours - 1 full day with a fish tank pump and just use that. I do ph my feeds to 6.3 though, not water though. Rain water where I live is ph 7.7, the exact same ph as filtered tap water. When bubbled my tap water goes to ph8.
Just a light misting is enough. You don't want drips sat there magnifying the light.
Imagine spraying your own face with a sprayer, one or 2 sprays and you'll have an even mist on your face. Too many and it will be dripping off. So go for the even mist. Just a quick washah washah with the sprayer
With led growing, there is no point having the perfect temperature - if the humidity is out. You are better off having perfect humidity and you growing area will still be in the temp range.
I see many led growers / cob growers struggling as they are more worried about canopy temps, than humidity, or even the temperature of their plants roots. Cold roots and it's over!
Also make sure you haven't got a fan giving them wind burn.
Just plain phd water+ spray them with water twice a day! They will grow super fast
I bubble tap water for about 12 hours - 1 full day with a fish tank pump and just use that. I do ph my feeds to 6.3 though, not water though. Rain water where I live is ph 7.7, the exact same ph as filtered tap water. When bubbled my tap water goes to ph8.
Just a light misting is enough. You don't want drips sat there magnifying the light.
Imagine spraying your own face with a sprayer, one or 2 sprays and you'll have an even mist on your face. Too many and it will be dripping off. So go for the even mist. Just a quick washah washah with the sprayer
With led growing, there is no point having the perfect temperature - if the humidity is out. You are better off having perfect humidity and you growing area will still be in the temp range.
I see many led growers / cob growers struggling as they are more worried about canopy temps, than humidity, or even the temperature of their plants roots. Cold roots and it's over!
Also make sure you haven't got a fan giving them wind burn.
I don't think it's the fans. Using 2 small 6 inch clip on fans clipped in the corner about one and a half to two feet above the plants
I use clip on fans too. For this stage, you want the plants barely even twitching. Literally, you look at them close and can just see the plants dancing in the mild breeze, but form the other side of the room, they look like they ain't moving. That, combined with perfect humidity will get any led grow on track.
So you can JUST see them moving... They twitch 2-3 times every 5 seconds, even without an oscillating fan. For a 3ft x 3ft tent, in veg I use clip ons on half power, then full power when they get to early - to mid flowering. If the clip on is too close, they will twitch constantly. That is Not good for your grow 'for this stage'
So you can JUST see them moving... They twitch 2-3 times every 5 seconds, even without an oscillating fan. For a 3ft x 3ft tent, in veg I use clip ons on half power, then full power when they get to early - to mid flowering. If the clip on is too close, they will twitch constantly. That is Not good for your grow 'for this stage'
During lights off my temps right now are 68 with 66 humidity.
Will check the fans when lights come on
That's great. That's a nice humidity %
With sodium lamps, it's more about using the biggest lamp for an area, then trying to cool it.
Led growing is different. You can literally pick the humidity by adjusting the temps / slowing the extraction.
Do you use a fan controller for extraction?
Haven't picked one up yet tbh.
I'm gonna post some new pictures tomorrow
WeedPseudonym
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Take some more pics today without the lights on
@etch3d She does look much better. She looks like she has access to plenty of nitrogen, so don't feed here nitrogen yet. It will be toxic if you do. I had a look at the photo from the other day on page 1, she does look much better.
Keep temps warm, make sure you feed her something with magnesium in! But not nitrogen! I use bio bizz alg-a-mic. Get something like that, or some Epsom salts. Can you get seaweed or something similar to alg-a-mic.
Forget how much water people feed their plants under sodium lamps... You must not overwater! She will continue to get better fast, she's looking good. She looks like a strong plant!
Every 3 watering, 1st do a small feed, no run off at all, just giver her enough to tie her over for 24 hours. Like half a litre. 2nd feed, do the same. 3rd feed get some run off to wash out salts etc.
By doing this her metabolism speeds up for feed 1 or 2, so when you do the full soaking, her metabolism is in full flow, so she deals with it better.
That's how I do it and I grow under led too...
I'm not hearing many complaints from my ladies
Keep temps warm, make sure you feed her something with magnesium in! But not nitrogen! I use bio bizz alg-a-mic. Get something like that, or some Epsom salts. Can you get seaweed or something similar to alg-a-mic.
Forget how much water people feed their plants under sodium lamps... You must not overwater! She will continue to get better fast, she's looking good. She looks like a strong plant!
Every 3 watering, 1st do a small feed, no run off at all, just giver her enough to tie her over for 24 hours. Like half a litre. 2nd feed, do the same. 3rd feed get some run off to wash out salts etc.
By doing this her metabolism speeds up for feed 1 or 2, so when you do the full soaking, her metabolism is in full flow, so she deals with it better.
That's how I do it and I grow under led too...
I'm not hearing many complaints from my ladies
Every time I try and water them the water literally just runs to the sides of the pots and out the sides. Any idea what's causing this. Saturated the top layer with a spray bottle and it took the water a lot better ( the other three plants )@etch3d She does look much better. She looks like she has access to plenty of nitrogen, so don't feed here nitrogen yet. It will be toxic if you do. I had a look at the photo from the other day on page 1, she does look much better.
Keep temps warm, make sure you feed her something with magnesium in! But not nitrogen! I use bio bizz alg-a-mic. Get something like that, or some Epsom salts. Can you get seaweed or something similar to alg-a-mic.
Forget how much water people feed their plants under sodium lamps... You must not overwater! She will continue to get better fast, she's looking good. She looks like a strong plant!
Every 3 watering, 1st do a small feed, no run off at all, just giver her enough to tie her over for 24 hours. Like half a litre. 2nd feed, do the same. 3rd feed get some run off to wash out salts etc.
By doing this her metabolism speeds up for feed 1 or 2, so when you do the full soaking, her metabolism is in full flow, so she deals with it better.
That's how I do it and I grow under led too...
I'm not hearing many complaints from my ladies
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You are probably not leaving enough time between each bit of water you put on.
Pour some on, wait for it to soak in, then wait a bit more, then pour more on.
Saint Skinny
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Nice choice in soil. Gotta support local when you can. I picked up a bag of Detroit Nutrient Companies Worm Castings and I love em. I'd like to try that soil at some point. You from Michiganja?
