a mongo frog
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Your funny dude, although he's probably just joking around.
LED 95% Quaility light 1000 watt HPS 30% Quality Light ?
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OneHitDone
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I didn't say you said, I said there was lot's of talk about sphere testing but yet this is easily a year later and more and more people selling cob's and parts and preaching efficiency but yet no data to back it up still.
All the nah sayers want to see real test data on the output of cobs
ttystikk
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I'm sorry, this is an ignorant blanket statement. Not only can you not know, but I'm personally aware that most sizeable facilities are religious about their lamp replacement intervals because they know how important it is.
That does add up.
It is also true that both lamp AND reflector degrade over time and thus both need regular replacement. Relatively fewer replace their reflector on the recommended schedule.
They grow good weed, but Gavita advocates hate to talk about HVAC costs attendant to their operation, another glaring deficiency in overall systems performance. It costs a lot of AC tonnage and electricity to remove all that heat emitted from a 550 degree oven element!
Even CMH/CDM/LEC lamps produce better quality and have longer replacement intervals, yet their quality of product results still pale in comparison to COB LED.
Do a life cycle cost analysis and COB LED is already less expensive- and that's not taking better quality into account at all, which I assure you means a great deal to their bottom line.
More to consider; utilities are handing out cash incentives to operators for installing energy efficient lighting, often several hundred dollars per fixture. It's cost effective for utilities to do this instead of buying more power on the spot market or worse, attempting to build more generation capacity, both extremely costly options.
Once there's a direct subsidy like that, the choice is simple- and the barrier of high cost of acquisition is no more.
a mongo frog
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Then go change your bulbs out , I'm good with mine. Some being over a year old. Im not a sizable facility. Im only running 16k flower and like 5k in a veg room. We do things super small out here. And I'm sure you change your 315's every 2 runs, don't you?
REALSTYLES
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You are new here and why this comment? Me unprofessional? This is a forum where people text but a lot of them won't Skype with me because they would be exposed. I talk with a lot of members here on the phone and they would say you are out of line for your post and to let you know I sell Cree CXB3590s and I have threads to show you how to make panels and I hate Mars lights lol they fucking suck. I owned 5 of them the Mars II 900,1200 and 1600 and they failed and didn't get warrantied. I'm a grown man and you didn't even read the whole thread if you did you wouldn't have posted what you did and the haters liked your post. Those guys are jealous just read the whole thread.If you're supposed to be advertising for something, which I don't know if you are since I'm new here (sorry), you really need to work on how you talk to people. You come off very unprofessional. Not trying to be mean or personal or anything, I'm just saying it reflects poorly on what ever service you're trying to offer people.
On the plus side, those massive COB leds are looking great
HandyGringo
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I did read the thread. And again I mean no offence. But I doubt you're going to understand my point.
Professional communication; "I disagree, at 56% efficiency the COB's will easily outperform the previous setup, especially since bla bla facts statistics and stuff"
Your communication; "Lol you guys are haters hahahaha I'll show you"
PhotonFUD
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The term quality needs to be put into context. Light quality could reference uniformity, spectrum, well all properties of light that influence photosynthesis.
Quality of build? They both look well built. The SK is waterproof so that is a plus.
Quality of spectrum coverage? They both cover the entire PAR spectrum so neither are missing any necessary wavelengths. Uniformity of more than 400umoles can be done by both. That just means that they can grow plants.
You might be asking the question wrong. It might be better to ask 'what are my options for a light source growing in a <dimensions> with approximately <watts of power> for around <budget> or what about these <number> of lights that I am currently looking at?'
Only you know what environment that you have. There isn't any one light that is best for all environments and people will give you opinions based on what they have.
Quality of build? They both look well built. The SK is waterproof so that is a plus.
Quality of spectrum coverage? They both cover the entire PAR spectrum so neither are missing any necessary wavelengths. Uniformity of more than 400umoles can be done by both. That just means that they can grow plants.
You might be asking the question wrong. It might be better to ask 'what are my options for a light source growing in a <dimensions> with approximately <watts of power> for around <budget> or what about these <number> of lights that I am currently looking at?'
Only you know what environment that you have. There isn't any one light that is best for all environments and people will give you opinions based on what they have.
ttystikk
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You aren't listening, and it's only costing you;
First, as stated above, 315W CMH lights go two years between replacement- that's from Philips- and I run them vertically, thus needing no reflector.
Second, I AM replacing them... with COB LED!
Third, what does size have to do with efficiency? They're independent variables.
Come on man, you're smarter than this.
JorgeGonzales
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a mongo frog
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Your doing none of what you say. You run around here talking about how great you are and how great your plants are doing and how great your bud is, oh and how efficient you garden is, but dude you run more power then anyone on this site. Your garden is hardly efficient, let alone healthy. I have some 1 + year old bulbs in fixtures you have no idea what I'm yielding not yielding doing annually, or as you put it costing me. Your acting like a know it all. The truth is you don't know, its why your all over the place in your own garden. Trust me I've been where your at, not in over 10 years but I've been there. Then you make this comment "come on man, you're smarter then this." Smarter then what?
REALSTYLES
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You must have very thin skin and you don't know me and I really don't care. You must be from the UK because you don't get my sarcasm. Shit is different in the states. I might be brash but I'm honest.
DankaDank
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sixstring2112
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you come off as an arrogant ass 95% of the time lately.you jump in threads and instantly try to make it about you,like you did with this one lol.you post the pic of the monster mega mess in your front room with those new panels in multiple threads now,why not just show us those in your own thread,or the new room your building? and why in the fuck do you think everyone needs to be reminded you know how to skype and you talk to supra and jerry all the time lol.nobody cares ,the op was already sold on hps before he made the thread,he just needed yodas help in deciding before clicking add to cart haha.i think new guy pegged it pretty well as far as you trying to start a new biz with your current attitude.your not offering anything people cant already find here.you really think that stance will sell more product ? good luck bro
sixstring2112
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oh i forgot to mention your company logo/acronym is ass so that last post was actually a compliment 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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spectrum king..they are not bad..they are not great.. too expensive
they will veg plants well..and can flower ok..
they will veg plants well..and can flower ok..
PSUAGRO.
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CXB's being sent in next week............should know the sphere #s by the end of the month, fingers crossed
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REALSTYLES
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You Obviously do. And you are right they can get what I sell anywhere but not the same price. I have almost the same price as KingBrite but have lower shipping to people in the USA.
JorgeGonzales
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I really hope you didn't invest too much money in your new business.