I have only used my 90W 5th generation BLUE along with my HIDs so far but it really seemed like it's a great little vegging unit. I will be using it again on some clone shortly but for vegging those FULL BLUE LEDs seem to work really good, I don't think you need much wattage to veg with LEDs. 2 hours from Kelowna hey ... would you agree with my statement : they are based out of Kelowna, BC .... could be part of why they are so expensive!! hehe. That is why I bought a FERO too, ... wanted to support a BC company, they are out of Victoria.