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WeedIsMySpinach

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manfredo said:
I'm feeding mine 4 times a day and I can assure you it's not stunting their growth. But I'm in flower and at that stage once a day woukd suffice.

I think maybe the only time you might be able to over water them is as a seedling, for like the first week.
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Thank u, this is what I said. I wasn’t meaning when in flower as everyone knows your plant is taking up more when in flower but when they are babies overwatering is a big stumper.
 
Fish scale

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manfredo said:
Just out of curiousity, what brand is this? I have never heard of such a thing, and a Google search came up with nada.

Usually stuff grows really fast in coco.
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It's Ecothrive brand, I've never used it before and I won't be using it again. It's basically 70% coco mixed with 30% perlite with added nutrients but it's a pain in the ass, I will use Canna coco Professional when I transplant them https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecothrive-Perlite-Premium-Growing-Hydroponics/dp/B07ML4647Q
 
TCH

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WeedIsMySpinach said:
A good rule of thumb would be to water every four or five days. You also need to use a pot that provides good drainage, as your coco coir requires air as well as moisture to promote healthy plant growth. If there's too much moisture inside, there won't be enough air.

that’s just of 1 seedbank. @TCH how often do u water/feed?

edit…. This was a copied article, I don’t agree with the 4-5 days at all
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Mine are basically watered constantly. The blumats supply damn near a constant drip. They are in plastic containers and constantly wet. Feeding coco pulls fresh oxygen into the coco and root zone. I'm not sure about this coco OP is using but I feel like a weak feed solution may be the answer daily until runoff. Fresh water is probably just flushing the media and making a mess out of it.
 
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TCH said:
Mine are basically watered constantly. The blumats supply damn near a constant drip. They are in plastic containers and constantly wet. Feeding coco pulls fresh oxygen into the coco and root zone. I'm not sure about this coco OP is using but I feel like a weak feed solution may be the answer daily until runoff. Fresh water is probably just flushing the media and making a mess out of it.
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From d dot? Or do u transplant into bigger pots?
 
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TCH said:
Mine are basically watered constantly. The blumats supply damn near a constant drip. They are in plastic containers and constantly wet. Feeding coco pulls fresh oxygen into the coco and root zone. I'm not sure about this coco OP is using but I feel like a weak feed solution may be the answer daily until runoff. Fresh water is probably just flushing the media and making a mess out of it.
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The last time I added nutrients it burned them up really bad and now I'm scared to add nutrients again because I don't want to burn them up again
 
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WeedIsMySpinach said:
From d dot? Or do u transplant into bigger pots?
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I start them in rapid rooters and once the roots are coming out, I drop the plug into the coco and feed daily. When they are small, I don't necessarily saturate the pot, but I do give them quite a bit of feed. Within a week, I am watering the whole pot til runoff and roots were poking out the bottom of the half gallon pot.
 
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manfredo said:
I'm feeding mine 4 times a day and I can assure you it's not stunting their growth. But I'm in flower and at that stage once a day woukd suffice.

I think maybe the only time you might be able to over water them is as a seedling, for like the first week.
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I get perfect growth in seedling/veg without a doubt, it is true IMO when they say some perlite in a solo cup or starter pot helps it root faster. By day 7 I always was able to transplant and would have roots equal to a 2 week old seedling in same solo cup in dirt.

Not much top growth but surely ready for transplant and regular EC feed. I just switched back to dirt and already overwatering, easy to think wet coco is a problem if you only grew dirt but roots just go nuts in coco even at seedling. Oxygen rich.
 
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WeedIsMySpinach said:
there u go mate clearly I was wrong. Keep doing what your doing

Thanks @medidedicated i only tagged u as I saw you been here a while lol sorry.
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It’s all good, I had a short phase here where all I did was try to offer advice I could not give. Takes years to be able to help any one that asks for help, I still only can offer very basic minimal advice every now and then after a year of going at it with coco.

Never had a hobby convince me I knew it all long before I could.
 
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medidedicated said:
It’s all good, I had a short phase here where all I did was try to offer advice I could not give. Takes years to be able to help any one that asks for help, I still only can offer very basic minimal advice every now and then after a year of going at it with coco.

Never had a hobby convince me I knew it all long before I could.
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I'm totally lost and confused now dude, should I keep watering until run off and wait for the run off EC to lower? Any help is appreciated :weed:
 
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Fish scale said:
I'm totally lost and confused now dude, should I keep watering until run off and wait for the run off EC to lower? Any help is appreciated :weed:
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Water till runoff each time, and every time it starts to slightly dry and turn lighter in color which will be at least once a day and then in flower, it will be twice a day most likely at least, possibly more so that is why people have auto feed which is fairly simple to set up.

I tried hand watering, it just won’t work unless it doesn’t dry back over night to where problems arise because of it and it can make coco much more work than needed. Sizing up large resivoirs is the key to less work.

Checking runoff EC is bro science most arguebly, all it tells you is salt it building up from lack of watering. Just EC/PH that goes in is all that matters. You don’t need large runoff, just enough to replenish the media.
 
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medidedicated said:
Water till runoff each time, and every time it starts to slightly dry and turn lighter in color which will be at least once a day and then in flower, it will be twice a day most likely at least, possibly more so that is why people have auto feed which is fairly simple to set up.

I tried hand watering, it just won’t work unless it doesn’t dry back over night to where problems arise because of it and it can make coco much more work than needed. Sizing up large resivoirs is the key to less work.

Checking runoff EC is bro science most arguebly, all it tells you is salt it building up from lack of watering. Just EC/PH that goes in is all that matters. You don’t need large runoff, just enough to replenish the media.
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That's my only problem, it doesn't seem like it's getting slightly dry, I just keep getting Algae build up on the top of the coco, they seem stunted and are not growing properly, I'm going to see how I get on now I have turned up the light to 50% and report back here in a few days, thanks for the help though dude I really appreciate it
 
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Fish scale said:
That's my only problem, it doesn't seem like it's getting slightly dry, I just keep getting Algae build up on the top of the coco, they seem stunted and are not growing properly, I'm going to see how I get on now I have turned up the light to 50% and report back here in a few days, thanks for the help though dude I really appreciate it
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It may be choking. It took me a while, but I got rid of the perlite and trusted the coco. So much less messy. Mixing feed and dumping it daily was a bitch. im glad to have reservoirs and the blumats now and not have to mix daily.
 
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Fish scale said:
That's my only problem, it doesn't seem like it's getting slightly dry, I just keep getting Algae build up on the top of the coco, they seem stunted and are not growing properly, I'm going to see how I get on now I have turned up the light to 50% and report back here in a few days, thanks for the help though dude I really appreciate it
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It can be like that in early veg, I was about to say, to be clear you can and should water once a day even if it is still wet. Once gunk and algae appear, it is really hard to rid of even with watering daily which will take time but at least stop it in its tracks. More of a note for next time.

I only got that from auto drip halos not covering the whole pot or seedling went capoot and so coco just sits there all day so instead of replenishing, I just tossed it since it just doesn’t go away so easy.

I had perfect results starting with clean coco and sterilized solution from the beginning with narrow pots. Microbes like hydrogaurd made for gunky coco, sterile was best for me.

I also buy brick coco and rinse/buffer myself along with rinsed perlite so my media was very clean and kept sterile easy. Coco flushes very very quick, so what ever was in it should be long gone. Like 1.5 EC to .1 EC in one flush with distilled as an example.

So inactive coco can go bad, if the plant doesn’t root into it fast enough which would be rare unless its like 7 plus gallons which isnt bad for a big healthy plant. What size pot they in? Pics of plants? How did I get wrapped up in this thread again? haha stoner moment.
 
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TCH said:
It may be choking. It took me a while, but I got rid of the perlite and trusted the coco. So much less messy. Mixing feed and dumping it daily was a bitch. im glad to have reservoirs and the blumats now and not have to mix daily.
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What does choking mean dude? I'm going to go with just coco when I transplant it's like the perlite is turning green and giving me the Algae
 
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medidedicated said:
It can be like that in early veg, I was about to say, to be clear you can and should water once a day even if it is still wet. Once gunk and algae appear, it is really hard to rid of even with watering daily which will take time but at least stop it in its tracks. More of a note for next time.

I only got that from auto drip halos not covering the whole pot or seedling went capoot and so coco just sits there all day so instead of replenishing, I just tossed it since it just doesn’t go away so easy.

I had perfect results starting with clean coco and sterilized solution from the beginning with narrow pots. Microbes like hydrogaurd made for gunky coco, sterile was best for me.

I also buy brick coco and rinse/buffer myself along with rinsed perlite so my media was very clean and kept sterile easy. Coco flushes very very quick, so what ever was in it should be long gone. Like 1.5 EC to .1 EC in one flush with distilled as an example.

So inactive coco can go bad, if the plant doesn’t root into it fast enough which would be rare unless its like 7 plus gallons which isnt bad for a big healthy plant. What size pot they in? Pics of plants? How did I get wrapped up in this thread again? haha stoner moment.
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I always used to have perfect results starting with clean coco and no perlite either
 
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