Led grow?

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

I have always ran a CFL veg and HPS flower/bud. I am thinking of going LED for my flowering/bud. Any suggestions? I'm just starting up again and right now besides clones I have one plant to flower and bud it's In an area about 3 foot by 2 foot by 7ft tall. I heard led grows don't produce the density or quality of bud as an HPS bud.

$bkbbudz$ · Mar 7, 2016

You ask a valid question! However, the place to get the BEST answer on this is in the LED growers forum...just sayin.

Good Luck and Great Growz

$bkbbudz$ · Mar 7, 2016

BTW,,,you will find the LED forum in the indoor growing room...it is a sub forum

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

$bkbbudz$ said:
You ask a valid question! However, the place to get the BEST answer on this is in the LED growers forum...just sayin.

Good Luck and Great Growz

Thank you. I'm new to the site so I guess you can accredit this as a noob mistake. Wrong forum u guess

$bkbbudz$ · Mar 7, 2016

Peace pipetoker said:
Thank you. I'm new to the site so I guess you can accredit this as a noob mistake. Wrong forum u guess

No problem my friend...just trying to help you get the info you need from those who know. I am an HID grower and have no real experience with LED. I do know that, in general the real LED pros prefer DIY LED to the over-hyped and over-priced commercial units.

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

$bkbbudz$ said:
No problem my friend...just trying to help you get the info you need from those who know. I am an HID grower and have no real experience with LED. I do know that, in general the real LED pros prefer DIY LED to the over-hyped and over-priced commercial units.

Yeah I use HPS currently

brettsog · Mar 7, 2016

Sorry to state the obvious but this is in the led section.

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

Ye

brettsog said:
Sorry to state the obvious but this is in the led section.

I want to convert to LED

sunni · Mar 7, 2016

brettsog said:
Sorry to state the obvious but this is in the led section.

It was Moved to the LED section it was not originally put there

Humanrob · Mar 7, 2016

Peace pipetoker said:
I want to convert to LED

Why?

Knowing your reasons might help with suggestions. For instance, is it to have a light that runs cooler? Are you looking to save money on electricity (i.e. better efficiency)? There are lots of reasons to switch to LEDs.

Like buying anything, you have to know your budget before you start. These things have a way of escalating, the more you know, the more you know why the expensive ones often are actually better than the less expensive ones (not always the case with LEDs, some companies try to mediocre lights at top dollar). Once you know, you can't unlearn it.

brettsog · Mar 7, 2016

sunni said:
It was Moved to the LED section it was not originally put there

That makes sense. Lol

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

Humanrob said:
Why?

Knowing your reasons might help with suggestions. For instance, is it to have a light that runs cooler? Are you looking to save money on electricity (i.e. better efficiency)? There are lots of reasons to switch to LEDs.

Like buying anything, you have to know your budget before you start. These things have a way of escalating, the more you know, the more you know why the expensive ones often are actually better than the less expensive ones (not always the case with LEDs, some companies try to mediocre lights at top dollar). Once you know, you can't unlearn it.

I want to be more energy efficient and run cooler. My budget at this point would be as low as possible. I just dropped $200 on nutes but I want to know my options with LEDs.

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

Also I have one little 10 watt led flowering spotlight, I have never tried before because I didn't want to change the spectrum but would it hurt to out it in there with my daylight spectrum cfls? There on 24/0

Humanrob · Mar 7, 2016

I have a 2.5' x 2' x 6' space, and I've had several different lights in there. It started with CFLs, then went to a low level Mars burple LED light, for a while it had a 4000k LED Shop Light in it, and now it has a pair of Optic 120's in it. The Mars was the least expensive at $75 delivered. The shop light was actually $200 from Home Depot (its in my shop now, veg's nicely but not very potent for flowering). The Optic 120's were about $325 each, so I have $650 worth of COB-based pre-made LEDs in there now.

You could build a DIY COB light and probably get away with just two Cree 3070's, and it can be done for under (or around?) $200, I think, haven't priced them recently. I have a friend with a 2x3 grow cabinet, not sure the height but I'd guess around 5' tall. He did one grow with just two 3070's, and then added two more for the next grow. He did very well both runs.

How many watts is the HPS you are replacing? How many grams per grow have you been getting?

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

Humanrob said:
I have a 2.5' x 2' x 6' space, and I've had several different lights in there. It started with CFLs, then went to a low level Mars burple LED light, for a while it had a 4000k LED Shop Light in it, and now it has a pair of Optic 120's in it. The Mars was the least expensive at $75 delivered. The shop light was actually $200 from Home Depot (its in my shop now, veg's nicely but not very potent for flowering). The Optic 120's were about $325 each, so I have $650 worth of COB-based pre-made LEDs in there now.

You could build a DIY COB light and probably get away with just two Cree 3070's, and it can be done for under (or around?) $200, I think, haven't priced them recently. I have a friend with a 2x3 grow cabinet, not sure the height but I'd guess around 5' tall. He did one grow with just two 3070's, and then added two more for the next grow. He did very well both runs.

How many watts is the HPS you are replacing? How many grams per grow have you been getting?

I have 2 150 watts and 1 400 but I was only planning on using 1 150 in this grow. This is the first grow in my closet. I used to have a whole room.

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

Was thinkingabout putting this little 10 watt guy in there right now. I'm on veg but I was wondering if the spectrum would encourage her to start getting ready to flower.

Humanrob · Mar 7, 2016

For the most part, your expectations and your budget will decide where you go. Well, also, whether or not you have any interest in building your own light.

If you are on a tight budget you'll get a lot of snarky advice at Rollitup, because the low budget lights (mostly from China) are not efficient, have dubious spectrum's, have poor (if any) customer service and tend to die prematurely. That said, if your budget is low and your expectations are also, they will grow pot.

If that's your direction, my apologies, I have no information in that realm.

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

On this grow I was going to use 1 150 hps

Peace pipetoker · Mar 7, 2016

I would rather stuck with HPS for that little closet I have 700 watts of HPS if I need it just the electric cost and heat. I am in the middle of hooking up an exhaust that will vent out the top vent of my house.

Rahz · Mar 7, 2016

For the most part high efficiency LED is found in COB package from Bridgelux and Cree. If you can't afford to outfit a space with pre-made cob lamps, DIY is cheaper. Most of the cheap Chinese lamps aren't that efficient so switching from HPS to LED in that form ends up being the reason people say...

Peace pipetoker said:
I heard led grows don't produce the density or quality of bud as an HPS bud.

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