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TCurtiss

TCurtiss

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IAm5toned said:
thats one hairy lady u got there... is she italian? mebbe french? rofl.... nice genetics tho
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Thanks, and I wish I knew it was suppose to be a Jack Herer plant but I think my contact got confused, mind you I am not mad it looks crazy and I have not gotten a real good look at her I have her stuffed in the corner

She maybe coming out soon though, I can wait to taste her and she is not nearly as sticky as the real Jack plant but very bushy

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Beyourself13

Beyourself13

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Hi guys im on my first grow. I have a 4'x4'x8' grow tent with a 90watt ufo. Their are two ecogrowers in their with 6 plants each. im using general hydro for nutrients. I just ordered a 300watt tri-band panel from jacks bargin bin. The plants are doing great. Any thoughts or ides for me?
 
growweedtoday

growweedtoday

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I personally have just switched to using LEDs. I purchased one to see how it would work based on the recommendation of a friend and have been very pleased with it so far! I have five plants flowering under this 90W LED Light by eLoofa(click here to see the light for sale on Amazon.com). It has a little fan on it and barely produces any heat.

I had five small plants that were grown vegetatively using CFLs. However, I was getting some heat problems from the four 105W CFLs in my small grow area so when my plants started flowering and I switched to the eLoofa LED panel. My plants seemed to love it and grew another half a foot. The buds were starting to fatten nicely that got light from the panel, but at that point, I felt the one LED panel wasn't enough coverage for all five plants because there were shadowy bits on the sides of the plants that were too far from the light. I decided to supplement the plants with two 100W CFL 2700k lights from the sides. The amazing thing is the plants still lean towards the LED light in comparison to the CFLs, which seems to indicate to me that the LEDs are working. The part of the buds that are faced towards the LED are also fatter than the other parts of the buds. All the plants have buds that are starting to really fatten up, and there's still another month of flowering left. The eLoofa panel worked well enough for me that I just bought another. I live in a hot area so heat can really be an issue and I'm a small-scale grower and just want a personal stash. I don't want to have to deal with venting and ducting so the LED panels are great because they don't produce any heat. I'm going to be starting another grow soon using just an LED panel from seedling to harvest so I guess that will be the real test to see if it works.

Here are pictures of some of the plants that have been growing under the LED now (click on the pics for a bigger version). One is under the LED, and one picture another one of the plants under a regular light:



Here's a close-up of the trichomes on last picture:

 
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crbruton

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(this only concerns people who dont have large grow ops) Its like no matter how many threads there are, no1 can ever address or even do what seems sooo obvious to me. CLEARLY LED lights are new and controversial. Clearly leds are lacking. if you were to use an LED for all stages of growth there are definite cons. but as of now, it seems that would be an idiotic thing to do since we have all of these wonderful HID lamps like HPS that acheive our goals ooo so well. so CLEARLY...why doesnt anyone use a fluorescent for germination which is DEFINITELY all that is needed, a blue LED for veg...assuming ur veg area isn't too large for the light's recommended coverage space, and an HPS for flowering. HPS is definitely better for flowering than a mh or cfl or LED becasue its spectrum is exactly what the plant needs and its lumens are wayyyy high. The blue led for veg is perfect because theres little heat, lower cost, lower electricity bill, and easier and cheaper maintenance if it breaks at any point. Everyone on here talks like you have all of the money in the world to spend on the right materials, yet no1 ever gets the rmost efficient stuff. talkin about spendin a few more for excellent quality...try adjust a wings for ur hps. try a blue ufo for veg. try just some normal fluorescents for germ and seedling stage. it all makes sense nowwwww.
 
SlickRickMcgee

SlickRickMcgee

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stelthy said:
Hi welcome :) I am using 2 x 90w led UFOs at 630 nm EACH and a selection of CFLs A) you havest to early B) LEDs accompanied by CFLs do work watch my thread if you have little faith LED s used propperly work :):leaf:
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I hadn't plucked them yet, but they where still scrawny for the first try. I later did a better set-up with a larger rez. What is your link to the cfl/LED grow you have?

My 2nd try turned out good. The pics below are of the plant before plucking it, and the a pic of the top cola. That is 2liter bottle for comparison, not a 20 oz... But yeah I had 6 months worth off of 2 bag seeds.





 
Nickyj420

Nickyj420

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xesvuli420 said:
I am creating this forum for a place where REAL, SEASONED, LED users can come, and help people who are wanting to get the truth about LED's. PLEASE, NO SALESMEN for LED company's dishing out biased opinions, to sale a light. Please! Lets keep it fair, honest, and un-biased so people can decide if LED's are what they need individually, and if so, what type.

Lets be honest, there are a lot of opinions out there towards this type of lighting. Sadly most of the NEGATIVE opinions are from non-LED users, and most of the POSITIVE opinions are from LED Salesmen.

If this technology is really worth trying out, then we need to talk about it. Discuss it with each other. Ask questions, Answer questions. LED's are quiet expensive, and the initial investment may scare people off, so hopefully this will be the place to come for the TRUTH, not sales gimmicks, no "Old Schoolers" dissing the thought of anything besides what they use. So please, If you have personally used a LED product, no matter what kind, we really want your opinion!

I really hope this thread explodes with information, results, and advice, so that people willing to try something new, can find quality products, and hopefully before long we can establish (if any!) what LED lights work, and which ones are complete junk. Thank you for any and all participation on your part.

So lets do this like this, when you come in to this forum, please share your results PERSONALLY. Tell us the details of your LED light (Brand, Wattage, Type, Homemade, Etc) Links to the exact unit you are using would be great so people could check them out, and maybe purchase. Most importantly your honest opinion of your results, things you liked, things you didn't, if you would recommend this to someone you know, and anything else you want to share about your particular unit.
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I Fell for the lie in High times magazine saying the first ufo wich wasnt even 660 nm
red beat a 400 watt all the way through etc.. etc.. i mean it will beat a 400 in veg but only if there's a 2x2 area were a 400 MH will cover way more area. The weed is alot weaker you need that fire from a HPS to get the thc going some. i noticed alot of Xtra resin with some strains Major stretch in flower though and barely got you high with the first UFO. Then with the 5th generation with 660 nm and some white in there with some blues stretch was gone. Flowering was better but still very weak trying to flower a strong sativa id recomend a 660 nm with white blue and some orange with uvb added what i really wanna experiment with is an auto flower on 18 hrs straight through, with uvb added and see the difference cause it does add more resin in certain strains but without the kick that maybe uvb could do thats my next experiment. I don't believe plants just want the red or blue they want everything nature has given them for thousands of years. Even MH and HPS is lacking what they need let alone led's, Shit who's to say all they need is NPK to try ordering exotic soils plants will take up what's ever in the soil if it's by a gold mine theyll take up some of that shit too. Only trust your own experiments stop believing what they tell you follow nature, As far as led's go for flower id go with heavy indicas keep em short cause led's dont reach the lower leaves and make sure your red's are deep reds i Veg with LED's always femanized seeds never clones and i never get hermemphadites
 
sean stevens

sean stevens

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ghostuk said:
i have just start'd testing some L.E.D grow lights...!
and i am sorry to say ...i am not very happy with them so far .
growth seems to be very slow.dont get me wrong ,she is growing but no where near as fast as the girl under 300w lights.i dont see wot all the fuss is about L.E.D's...?if any one has any tips i would be gratefull....i have 2 grow boxes 1 for flowering and 1 for veging,flowering a blue berry at 1 week into flower..!AK-48 is under L.E.D's at 3" high and 4 leaf's:)
FREE THE WEED AND SAVE ARE PLANET..!
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what spec are your lights and what distance are your plants from your leds. i use a ufo 180 for veg only and if i drop it below 36 inches from rooted cuttings they start to light stress and die. dunno if this helps but my veg plants grow tall bushy and rapid super silver haze loved it.
 
Crimble

Crimble

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"i have just start'd testing some L.E.D grow lights...!
and i am sorry to say ...i am not very happy with them so far .
growth seems to be very slow.dont get me wrong ,she is growing but no where near as fast as the girl under 300w lights.i dont see wot all the fuss is about L.E.D's...?if any one has any tips i would be gratefull....i have 2 grow boxes 1 for flowering and 1 for veging,flowering a blue berry at 1 week into flower..!AK-48 is under L.E.D's at 3" high and 4 leaf's
FREE THE WEED AND SAVE ARE PLANET..!"

I would def say that you need to have alt the minium 1000W to get any real kind of result with LED. I would recommend the company Growl LED www.ledgrowlight.com, they make the top of the line LED grow LIGHT, I have great results with them!
 
karr

karr

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Crimble said:
"i have just start'd testing some L.E.D grow lights...!
and i am sorry to say ...i am not very happy with them so far .
growth seems to be very slow.dont get me wrong ,she is growing but no where near as fast as the girl under 300w lights.i dont see wot all the fuss is about L.E.D's...?if any one has any tips i would be gratefull....i have 2 grow boxes 1 for flowering and 1 for veging,flowering a blue berry at 1 week into flower..!AK-48 is under L.E.D's at 3" high and 4 leaf's
FREE THE WEED AND SAVE ARE PLANET..!"

I would def say that you need to have alt the minium 1000W to get any real kind of result with LED. I would recommend the company Growl LED www.ledgrowlight.com, they make the top of the line LED grow LIGHT, I have great results with them!
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So how are you not very happy with led growth....then recommend to us to buy the same led units? forgive me, i am a little lost here.


Plenty of people (in this very thread) are growing just fine with 200w or so of LED, maybe you just picked one of the many LED companies that just have a good sales pitch and no product to back it up.
 
Crimble

Crimble

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Sorry Karr I was posting a quoter from ghostuk and I guess I don't know how to use the Quote features, I was responding to that post.
 
ledbudguy

ledbudguy

New Member
growweedtoday said:
I personally have just switched to using LEDs. I purchased one to see how it would work based on the recommendation of a friend and have been very pleased with it so far! I have five plants flowering under this 90W LED Light by eLoofa(click here to see the light for sale on Amazon.com). It has a little fan on it and barely produces any heat.

I had five small plants that were grown vegetatively using CFLs. However, I was getting some heat problems from the four 105W CFLs in my small grow area so when my plants started flowering and I switched to the eLoofa LED panel. My plants seemed to love it and grew another half a foot. The buds were starting to fatten nicely that got light from the panel, but at that point, I felt the one LED panel wasn't enough coverage for all five plants because there were shadowy bits on the sides of the plants that were too far from the light. I decided to supplement the plants with two 100W CFL 2700k lights from the sides. The amazing thing is the plants still lean towards the LED light in comparison to the CFLs, which seems to indicate to me that the LEDs are working. The part of the buds that are faced towards the LED are also fatter than the other parts of the buds. All the plants have buds that are starting to really fatten up, and there's still another month of flowering left. The eLoofa panel worked well enough for me that I just bought another. I live in a hot area so heat can really be an issue and I'm a small-scale grower and just want a personal stash. I don't want to have to deal with venting and ducting so the LED panels are great because they don't produce any heat. I'm going to be starting another grow soon using just an LED panel from seedling to harvest so I guess that will be the real test to see if it works.

Here are pictures of some of the plants that have been growing under the LED now (click on the pics for a bigger version). One is under the LED, and one picture another one of the plants under a regular light:



Here's a close-up of the trichomes on last picture:

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Sweet buds :) I just switched to LED also using 5 x 170w hybrids and I'm really impressed! My grow is in day 20 of flower right now, you can check it out here https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/378470-confined-space-850w-led-master.html
 
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SwiftGrow

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I did alot of research on LEDS and came to realize the biggest problems people have with LEDS is they get them from some crap company or do not get enough of them. Too many companies order LEDS from China and sell them on ebay and while some work alot dont. You get what you pay for and they are by no means cheap but then again ballast/hood/bulb setup isnt either. I chose to use HPS and LED in flower and Flouro and LED in veg. While I'm certain that LED can veg or flower by themselves I do not have the money to buy enough LEDs to cover what 2 600w HPS can so I use mine for supplemental lighting and plan on adding more. Kessil/Dicon has spent millions in research on LEDS and optics so when they said it takes 6 H150 LEDS to cover a 4x4 tent with Optimal lighting. Other larger panels are in excess of 1000$ each so for now I'm using HPS and adding LED as i can :D I think like any new technology LEDs are getting better and slowly will get cheaper.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html
 
surgedup

surgedup

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Hey guys I have a opportunity to buy a 300w grow panel pro led from sunshine systems off craigslist for 260 bucks I own a 600w hps and a 250w mh I think this is a steal for the price the guy has only used it for one grow and is moving back in with his parents and cant use it no more. He does not have the warranty papers but he said it is still under the 2 year warranty .... he can prodive the receipt when he bought it and the model and serial number... what do you guys think how many plants can i grow under this 300w grow panel pro led .... the guy said he had 15 plants under it in one gallon containers and pulled off a decent grow for that many plants ..... what do you guys think obviously its worth the buy since these units on sunshine system site are going for 1000 dollars still and 799-599 on some sites depending where you get it let me know guys ... what you think... it is a steal for the price though so I am going to buy it I just want your opinions ....
 
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smokefrogg

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wow that's a risk, but man if you got the ca$h to toss why not

i scored on a haight solid state ppf-400 through craigslist, only $160 and no waiting around for shipping, it's totally got my 2'x4' veg space covered
 
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ChucklesD

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surgedup said:
Hey guys I have a opportunity to buy a 300w grow panel pro led from sunshine systems off craigslist for 260 bucks I own a 600w hps and a 250w mh I think this is a steal for the price the guy has only used it for one grow and is moving back in with his parents and cant use it no more. He does not have the warranty papers but he said it is still under the 2 year warranty .... he can prodive the receipt when he bought it and the model and serial number... what do you guys think how many plants can i grow under this 300w grow panel pro led .... the guy said he had 15 plants under it in one gallon containers and pulled off a decent grow for that many plants ..... what do you guys think obviously its worth the buy since these units on sunshine system site are going for 1000 dollars still and 799-599 on some sites depending where you get it let me know guys ... what you think... it is a steal for the price though so I am going to buy it I just want your opinions ....
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Pretty cheap. If all the lights work on it I'd buy it. Or buy and resell on ebay!
 
Pureblood89

Pureblood89

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you need some sort of ventilation no matter what, cannabis respirates and creates a toxic environment for itself, you need to get fresh air in some way.
 
Canon

Canon

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Well, I'm a newbie with the LEDs. Just got one a few days ago and it's running.

Basicly a 2' X 2' X 5 ish closet, decided on trying a UFO. "180w" Lighthouse, 6 band, flower model 2011 (says will do all- errr maybe)

I see a lot I like about it, hope the plants feel the same.

I'm getting razzed about a pink light in my room from the wife though. :lol:

With 4 in veg training, I'm having a hard time thinking a light that dim is good. I know, it's about the usable light, but still.

Okay, to make me feel better, I added a 13w CFL in the middle down by the pot line. Thought about it and added another on a Y splitter.

Well getting closer to flower, I figured I'd make light and rigged a 70w HPS to replace the CFLs later.

Am I screwing this up this way?

Also the CFLs/HPS are on a 9 1/2 hr schedule while the LED is burning 18.
Will this throw the plants to flower? I'm not wanting to yet.

I've had great luck with the 250 HPS in this room, just the late summer's heat is nasty and trying to get away from it (like everyone else?).

Thanks for any input you may offer.
Canon

View attachment 1450175 HPS shown, CFLs same local when switched.
 
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