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Resinhound

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View attachment 3684300 Kind led company is the biggest pile of dog shit. Bunch of cunt assholes. After 18 days 31 leds burned out. I sent the kind 16 photos, 8 of each light, double boxed then filled with 50$ worth of packing foam. Now that they arrived damaged they won't refund me. Only option is to pay 200$ more to get them shipped back even more damaged then I sent them
bigsmo... this is exactly what im talking about. People buy from these companies who claim a 5 year warranty or something."aww well its got a 5 year warranty if it blows up ill just get it replaced"...until they find out its prorated. or you have to wait weeks and weeks for it to be returned.That sucks this happened to you and its exactly the kind of situation these kind of companies are becoming known for.
 

Big smo

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Threaten to report it to the BBB if you don't get a FULL refund, fuck them.............also tell them you will put their company on blast @ every mj forum until it's resolved.

good luck and I wouldn't take any shit, shipping fucking broken lights back is NOT an option!
We were going back and forth. Made me jump through hoops just to get a confirmation to send them back. Take 20 pictures, descriptions of the lights condition and pictures of the boxes being shipped in.

I got an email saying "congratulations your return is accepted" like its a miracle I can finally send them back now. I wrapped the shit out of them too. Who's to say kind didn't fuck em up on receiving? I asked why they signed for fucked up boxes too. Bullshit responses.

Kindest bunch of assholes
 

Billygreen

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View attachment 3684300 Kind led company is the biggest pile of dog shit. Bunch of cunt assholes. After 18 days 31 leds burned out. I sent the kind 16 photos, 8 of each light, double boxed then filled with 50$ worth of packing foam. Now that they arrived damaged they won't refund me. Only option is to pay 200$ more to get them shipped back even more damaged then I sent them
That's bullshit ,
Who was the shipper ? You can't file a damage claim with them ??
 

Billygreen

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When my Apache arrived damaged they filed a claim with ups , shipped it back and sent me a new one at no cost to me . I told them Ups damaged it ..they believed me and corrected it . So yeah .. Fuck kind .. Ill be sure put them on blast for you whenever opportunity arises . I consider myself lucky mine haven't fucked up yet
 

The Dawg

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When my Apache arrived damaged they filed a claim with ups , shipped it back and sent me a new one at no cost to me . I told them Ups damaged it ..they believed me and corrected it . So yeah .. Fuck kind .. Ill be sure put them on blast for you whenever opportunity arises . I consider myself lucky mine haven't fucked up yet
This Is What I Like To Hear. Great Customer Service :hump:
 

Billygreen

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The 2 plants I'm growing in DWC were underperformers compared to the vigorous growth of the plants I have in coco and I was considering going all coco from here on out .
But after seeing how beautiful the damn buds are coming out and the amazing sugar production that the DWC plants are exhibiting now I decided to add 6 more DWC setups . Gotta chill though .. Started this thing intending to only grow one or two plants then it was 5 now it's 30 plants
It's like I'm addicted to this shit ...nah can't be lol
Time to roll a fatty and hit the hay
 

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Big smo

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The 2 plants I'm growing in DWC were underperformers compared to the vigorous growth of the plants I have in coco and I was considering going all coco from here on out .
But after seeing how beautiful the damn buds are coming out and the amazing sugar production that the DWC plants are exhibiting now I decided to add 6 more DWC setups . Gotta chill though .. Started this thing intending to only grow one or two plants then it was 5 now it's 30 plants
It's like I'm addicted to this shit ...nah can't be lol
Time to roll a fatty and hit the hay
So much alike, I started my first grow with 4 plants. Now I have exactly 30 myself. Woulda had 31 but one decided to he didn't like me or something. It's work but it sure the hell of a lot better than everyday. I notice myself spending more and more time in my room and less at real work.
 

Airwalker16

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The 2 plants I'm growing in DWC were underperformers compared to the vigorous growth of the plants I have in coco and I was considering going all coco from here on out .
But after seeing how beautiful the damn buds are coming out and the amazing sugar production that the DWC plants are exhibiting now I decided to add 6 more DWC setups . Gotta chill though .. Started this thing intending to only grow one or two plants then it was 5 now it's 30 plants
It's like I'm addicted to this shit ...nah can't be lol
Time to roll a fatty and hit the hay
Rdwc is GREAT.
 

ttystikk

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So much alike, I started my first grow with 4 plants. Now I have exactly 30 myself. Woulda had 31 but one decided to he didn't like me or something. It's work but it sure the hell of a lot better than everyday. I notice myself spending more and more time in my room and less at real work.
Lol, I guess it depends on your definition of 'real' work!
 

Airwalker16

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I've had inconsistent results.
Not i. It's all about having waterfalls and gravity bringing your water back to the res. It's about PPMs never over 700, using h2o2, & making sure that the waters chilled to 62-68* with a chiller. I've seen such huge explosive growth since the chiller went in there. Best thing I've bought yet.20160515_125053.jpg
 

Billygreen

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What's the advantages of RDWC vs DWC ?
I keep mine on constant drip with airstones for oxygenation of the nute mix /water And it's seemingly working terrific at producing some really high quality sugar coated buds
 

Airwalker16

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What's the advantages of RDWC vs DWC ?
I keep mine on constant drip with airstones for oxygenation of the nute mix /water And it's seemingly working terrific at producing some really high quality sugar coated buds
Dwc, is its own bucket system. Rdwc is multiple ones sharing and exchanging the water.(3 gals per bucket, so 6 sites + a res=21 gals) I just don't like the idea of the same 3 gals of water all the time in one bucket.
I like keeping things moving.
 

Billygreen

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I can understand that ..but I clean mine once a week and it stays fairly clean .Also the air stones help a lot from letting water get stagnant or for anything harmful to build up ... And since I started using H202 they're doing better than ever ..
Side note - since my incident with the H202 it's my new practice to wear gloves lol
 

Big smo

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I can understand that ..but I clean mine once a week and it stays fairly clean .Also the air stones help a lot from letting water get stagnant or for anything harmful to build up ... And since I started using H202 they're doing better than ever ..
Side note - since my incident with the H202 it's my new practice to wear gloves lol
Good to hear you can give fingerprints again down at the station billy.

I'm debating on using h2o2 in my soil grows. I hear mixed reviews and wondered if anyone had input. Shits cheap enough so even if it does a little I'm down
 

Airwalker16

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I can understand that ..but I clean mine once a week and it stays fairly clean .Also the air stones help a lot from letting water get stagnant or for anything harmful to build up ... And since I started using H202 they're doing better than ever ..
Side note - since my incident with the H202 it's my new practice to wear gloves lol
I just posted this in the DWC forum.
Basically what mine does.
Also, I change my water every week too brutha man.


That's the beauty of MY design you don't see often. Gravity does all the work. The return lines are all at the bottom of the buckets and return on individual lines to each of 6 holes on the bottom of the reservoir bucket. In the res, there is a pump that comes out with a tube line, through the wall of the top of the bucket and splits. Then the lines are used like a manifold and teed into the top of the bucket wall (same as the res) fiirst two buckets are Tee'd and elbowed(90*) on the last. All connections are just barbed fittings stuck through donutgrommets. The pump from the res uses the water to supply these "waterfalls" and as the buckets are filled and the res is drained, the weight of the extra water in the 6 buckets pushes the extra weight down the return line back to the res.
This sketch is supply line and would be on 9 buckets but it's just the outer rows and a Wye instead of a cross like that to split the lines. This doesn't show any return lines. Those are all the first ones on first post.


But it's super easy to build and you just need 1 decent submersible pump that are cheap. InLines are a bit more coin.
All the buckets have air stones and air lines going to an air pump with a 6 valve manifold too, obviously. But the waterfalls in each help a TON with dissolved oxygen. I think ?@ttystikkhas some experience with this.
These are the return lines. I have now. And then what I plan on upgrading to. It has both supply(thin lines) AND return (thick lines) on it.20160512_231129.jpg 20160512_231924.jpg
 
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