Vato_504
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How do you like that KindLed bro
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Billygreen
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so far so good , plants seem to like it . Guess I'll know how much I like it when harvest time comes lol
SSGrower
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I'm not here to question any specific brand or model of light and I don't know if Viper advertised actual power consumption but why is it not fraud to call a light a XXXXX watt light when it only draws 1/2 that from the wall? Seems that if I were purchasing any other type of light source I get an accurate idea of what it draws from the wall. If I'm not actually using the power I think I am how is that conservation regardless of the result achieved??
BOBBY_G
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See that dark shadow in the corner? put it higher than you think. like high as your tent will allow it. with the lenses its like a spotlight
kmog33
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Almost no light claims its actual wattage draw. 1k hid pulls closer to 1100. 600 closer to 660. Most led manufacturers of those Chinese mono panels list the wattage at the capacity of the diodes on the panel if they were running at 100%. This would kill the life of the diodes and create a lot more heat/reduce efficiency of the panels and totally defeat the purpose of the LEDs in the first place.
Most Chinese panels run at 40-60% of their rated/claimed wattage.
SSGrower
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I get the technical component, knowing the effeciency of an led is above 50% to say a light is 400watt and have it be less than half that? WTF? What I am saying is that when a consumer does what they can to research the available info from a product it would be nice to start with technical documentation that would allow one to make the decision that is right for them.
Putting a power glide 2 speed transmission in a 3 cylinder geo metro doesn't use the transmission to its fullest capabilities and therfore would be difficult for me to justify doing it.
A 1-10% variance I would see as acceptable manufacturing tolerances.
Putting a power glide 2 speed transmission in a 3 cylinder geo metro doesn't use the transmission to its fullest capabilities and therfore would be difficult for me to justify doing it.
A 1-10% variance I would see as acceptable manufacturing tolerances.
Billygreen
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Using a mars hydro 300w 5w diode model for veg and a Diy 205 watt light fixture with cobs for flower. Plants loved the light during veg, and 3 days into flower time will tell
yeatster
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Depending on your DIY, most likely they will blow up, in comparison to the cheapo bars hydro
questiondj42
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I've grown 7 plants under a K3 L600 and I'm pleased with the results.
I also now own 3 TimberLED CXB200s and have plants flowering under both the Timbers and the Kind. I am much happier with the results under the Timbers than with the Kind. But I am not displeased at all with the results under the Kind. The Kind doesn't have the intensity down into the plant that the COBs do. The flowers at the bottom of one of the plants is just as dense as the flowers at the top.
Vato_504
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That's a new company? Timber
questiondj42
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I ordered them from dlplampsource.com. @RainDan was my contact. But I can't seem to find them on their side. Maybe @JimmyIndica knows? I saw that someone else had posted they were using a prototype from Timber that had red LEDs built in.
RainDan
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The Timber website is officially launching next week. URL will be www.timbergrowlights.com. In the meantime feel free to email me at [email protected] or send me a PM. Once the new website has gone live we will begin running banner ads again on RIU as well.
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks,
Dan
Vato_504
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Okay thanks Dan
Billygreen
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i like my 1000 watt kind xl so much i just ordered 3 more,shits getting real now y'all lol
Billygreen
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if one light can accomplish what I've seen so far what can 4 1000 watt kind leds do?
we shall see
we shall see
nevergoodenuf
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I am still not a fan of Kind. They still use old deceitful advertising. That is NOT a 1000 watt light, it is only 650 watts. This type of advertising is what turned many potental LED growers away from LED. This board has helped change that thinking and has created many companies that have broke the mold, when it comes to true information about LEDs and their true capability.
rocknratm
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you cant completely write them off because of this. Well you can, but i wont.
Its the same as car audio. Amps and subs are often names based on max watts, which you would never drive them at all the time or they would blow. RMS is the only important number you need to look at for amps and subs.
Same deal here, look at the wall draw, subtract fans, look at efficiency maybe, if its cob or blurple. I went with platinum because I think its similar enough to kind design but more affordable. Id run the shit out of some kinds, but me personally I am a fan of the cobs I have. Only did one run with em but great results.
heres a repost on my led rant:
companies claims on footprint coverage are rarely accurate (main light coverage), yes take fan wattage out of the power draw and youll have light wattage. Claims of replacing a 400w with 200w, well, idk about that... Claims about less heat- sure, maybe theres less heat watt for watt. But imo, its more that the heat is dissipated differently, there still is a fair amount of heat. That's how energy works, I'm not a scientist, but it makes sense.
That's also my theory on why plants under leds often need more water, the heat is pushed either out the top, or out the sides of the led, either way its staying closer to the plants. Just a rough theory...
As far as warranty, I'm giving companies the benefit of the doubt. Ill rip them apart online if they don't stand behind it (not a threat, I'm just saying...). Word of mouth on these types of things is crucial. The only thing that concerns me is if a company goes out of business. but I'm pretty handy, between me and my bro in law we can fix or repair anything (knock on wood).
They all claim to have cutting edge, newest technology. Well, they cant all have the newest, unless they all have the same.
As far as advanced leds, no idk if they would back their warranty.
I own a platinum led, and I think they would be good about warranty work. they seem like upstanding people, and so does the go green rep on here.
Also, as far as the 50000 hrs rating goes, thats 11years at 12hrs a day. I figure the output will be less than 70% after 5 years (from what I read) which is when id want to replace all the leds.
also, all these parts for leds are made in china, maybe assembled here in the us but ive heard a lot about "drop shipping". Imo there all probably parts from china, most assembled there as well, possibly tested at the company and then sent to you. So, at the end of the day, these are moderately priced for the cob tech they have.