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testiclees

testiclees

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Billygreen said:
before the cry babies attack ill say its not technically 4000 watts its 2520 not counting my supplemental lighting
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Dude you have no clue of your lights specs. How inefficient are those diodes? You probably have <1k actual par watts with those heaters.
 
buckets

buckets

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Is the apache the best in LED lighting and if so based on what? The price is really high so does that mean it's the best out there for LED growers? I've no experience so I thought I'd just ask the LED user community.
 
SoOLED

SoOLED

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buckets said:
Is the apache the best in LED lighting and if so based on what? The price is really high so does that mean it's the best out there for LED growers? I've no experience so I thought I'd just ask the LED user community.
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did you not just read the sucking chest wound of what would be the last six pages of this thread? NO ONE! is going to have and subjective answer to the "best" LED, and this is not what the thread topic is: here were are kicking sand, and I was an HPS girl still I would be laughing my ass off at this.

so, no you going to find a best LED, what we want is data, I don't care if you growing with a desk lamp LED, I wanna know how it does, and how you did it. or I want to hear about new technologies and ideas with LED's

I think we can all agree no matter what LED your using now, it is the future, for now. there is enough data/info here for a noob to read and make a choice on where to start, and google. and if you cant even choose a light, you sure-as-shit are not gonna grow for long.

now be nice and share your toys. or keep fighting its sort of amusing.
 
yeatster

yeatster

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SoOLED said:
did you not just read the sucking chest wound of what would be the last six pages of this thread? NO ONE! is going to have and subjective answer to the "best" LED, and this is not what the thread topic is: here were are kicking sand, and I was an HPS girl still I would be laughing my ass off at this.

so, no you going to find a best LED, what we want is data, I don't care if you growing with a desk lamp LED, I wanna know how it does, and how you did it. or I want to hear about new technologies and ideas with LED's

I think we can all agree no matter what LED your using now, it is the future, for now. there is enough data/info here for a noob to read and make a choice on where to start, and google. and if you cant even choose a light, you sure-as-shit are not gonna grow for long.

now be nice and share your toys. or keep fighting its sort of amusing.
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Rather than bashing him for asking, telling him he sure as shit won't grow anything, why not give your "opinion" in an LED purchase?
 
Billygreen

Billygreen

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I got the light for wholesale which is cool but my Savings were used for shipping . Works for me I guess . Now I suppose we can see if Apache lives up to the hype . If I don't like it one of you Apache groupies out there can buy it from me for cost . Lol
 
Diskokobaja

Diskokobaja

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Big smo said:
I agree billy. I too have seen great results with them. I'm just so damn butt hurt after this recent discovery. Yes resinhound the cmh is my next thought. Local grow shop carries them and can't keep up with the orders.

4 cmh =1260 watts
2 k5's = 1560 watts

An unbiased opinion which is better? Apache tech are way to expensive. I have to sell my wife on the light and the k5's were enough of a push
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im constantly reading about great results with hans panel and can find one real grow with it....
Im buying first led and hans panel is my option and i dont wanna f up my purcase..
 
SoOLED

SoOLED

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yeatster said:
Rather than bashing him for asking, telling him he sure as shit won't grow anything, why not give your "opinion" in an LED purchase?
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he, had the insight enough to keep such things in PM with me. the fiscal boundaries and prime requites of what he wanted them for were minimal. but I thought it was backwards since, in PM he wanted to avoid exactly this.

best of the best movie, thread....and I still say Eric Roberts was great. Tommy noo!! no tommy nooo!!! then Dae han Park says his spiel about tommy's brother, tear jerker fo sho.
 
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yeatster

yeatster

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SoOLED said:
he, had the insight enough to keep such things in PM with me. the fiscal boundaries and prime requites of what he wanted them for were minimal. but I thought it was backwards since, in PM he wanted to avoid exactly this.

best of the best movie, thread....and I still say Eric Roberts was great. Tommy noo!! no tommy nooo!!! then Dae han Park says his spiel about tommy's brother, tear jerker fo sho.
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Forest Gump.
" I gotta find BUBAAAAH!
 
Billygreen

Billygreen

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i don't like to wait lol, airshipping. vermont
last time i used standard ground shipping the item i ordered was busted to sh!t
 
Billygreen

Billygreen

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i had a lengthy conversation with the CTO for apache and the guy knows how to sell his product. not to mention every claim he made is backed up by facts.

he also enlightened me about my kind lights, i still don't see them as junk yet but the quality difference between the at600 and kind xl 1000 is undeniable.

it doesn't excuse the bashing of me or my light choices by other folks on here but I'm man enough to admit my first choice in led lighting wasn't the best choice.
 
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