The problem with those lights isn't that they don't work, photons are photons. The problem is the efficiency and efficacy. You can get similar or better efficiency from some HIDs than from most blurply LEDs and low grade white diode arrays.
So in the end, whether or not mars are shit depends on your goals.
For me, they are shit.
For someone with one small light in a closet, they might be worthwhile.
Check out the migro videos on youtube for light to light comparisons.
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I don't understand this kind of reply.
1- you say "they don't work". But I've just told you, with weights, and light costs, that they do work. They 100% do work. How do they "not work". (unless I'm lying of course)
2- I said in my post, very clearly, they they are not as effecient as HID and don't represent good value at RRP compared to HID
3- I ran nearly 600w in a 4x4 and filled it.
So they do work, but there are better things out there, but they run cool ish, and, do work. (All my cuttings, mother plants, and seedlings are brought up under a mars 100w LED)
I still don't get the Mars hate. I guess it's an elitist thing?
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