Growers here in the led community are currently documenting it. My quality from led is by far superior over my hid herb. I like you am a organic gardener, organics plus led equals "why the fuck havent i conververted a long time ago?"
I agree, I have run the same cuttings many times under HPS and LED. When run under LED I get more color, more flavor and subjectively more potency. Greengenes is having a test done to check into the difference in cannabinoids between blue dream nugs under HPS and red/white/blue LED.
High quality LED will very significantly outperform the HPS and you may save a large amount on cooling. Of course not all LED lamps are created equal. I would recommend the Apache, Area 51 or Onyx Bloom. They are all about 30% efficient. If you build your own lamp and up front cost is no issue, you could go as high as 56% efficient.
Greengenes that did the side by side I linked is suppose to be getting lab results for that grow to compare,but he says the LED bud is much more aromatic and tastes better. My evidence is anecdotal but I really believe the full spectrum is responsible. I've given a few different cuts to several friends that grow in soil like me but use HPS, they tell me mine is more flavorful and the high is longer lasting. One friend has shared bud of the same strain of his and mine and his friends can tell which is mine,he plans to switch over to LED because of that. My plants always seem to be more sticky,fragrant and stronger than the same cuts under HPS.
I have to repeat that you will not recoup the added initial costs of LED in one year. Or even three. I figured out I could save `$35 a month on electrical bills by buying $2500 worth of LED to replace 1200w HID. This assumes the HID is running at 1200w at all times. It will take many years to reach the break even point. Everybody says "my dope tastes better than yours". Subjective opinions. As yet, I've seen no laboratory results proving potency or taste. Greengenes said he would get lab testing done. Its been a month or more since he harvested, but hasn't posted his lab results to my knowledge.
Red,why do you continue to post your negative opinions of LED here in the LED section when apparently you don't even own one. It also appears you think we are all delusional or lier's when we talk about the quality of the plants we grow with LED. There are more reasons to run LED than just the amount of electricity it uses but I don't think you care about any of that,you just like to troll.
Agree red is a known troll lol
You ignore the problems with LEDs at your own peril. But to try to deny that knowledge to those seeking information is just plain wrong. Why do you continue to post your positive opinions of LED here in the LED section when apparently you look over its faults? The "more reasons" you claim haven't been laboratory tested. Some have talked of getting laboratory tests, but none have, or if they have, they haven't posted them. Why is that? This is the "LED and OTHER Lighting" section. Frankly, some of you are delusional. "200w of LED will out produce 1000w of HID" and "You'll save enough on the first cycle to pay for the lights"and "All you need is red and blue, so why waste power creating the other spectra" and "The full spectrum LEDs get better results".
Nothing you claim has been scientifically proven. Not even a preponderance of evidence. Why are you so intolerant of those who haven't gone all ga-ga over a freaking light?There's plenty of literature out there ,that suggests and explain in detail ,
every reason why led herb is by far of superior quality than the crappy HID herb ....
Once you try led herb ,there's no 'going back " ,to the tasteless ,grassy ,weak HID buds ...
Some can bash as much as they like ,the LEDS...
Afterall ,there has to be at least one reason for doing so ...
Act of a loser,indeed ...
(When you do not mind your own business ,
show no facts about what you talkin' about and just keep on
shitting from your mouth....)
I'm really starting to believe that there has to be a 'mysterious' reason ,
that makes some people ,so fiercely , defend of / stand up for a slowly but steadily dying tech .....
When at the same time, all latest industry & science researches do agree about and point out the superiority of LEDS in horticulture ,versus the HID lights ....
Maybe is the tubular shape of the HID bulbs ...
Maybe Sigmund Freud was right ..
Maybe there's a 'symbolism' behind the whole thing ....
Ah,what the heck ...
It's not my business ,afterall ...
Shove 'em ,wherever you like ....
Just not here,please .
Cheers.
i have noticed most HID growers are considerably less pretentious than LED growers
Are you mentally challenged, I'm beginning to think so. I always thought you were just a troll but now I think your just a little slow. Who ever said 200 watts of LED was equivalent to 1000 HPS,not me,it's more like 600. And what are all the draw backs of LED,the only problem with quality LED of the right spectrum is the price and that's steadily coming down. It takes more knowledge and research or a trusted recommendation to know what to buy in LED,any idiot can screw in a HID bulb. And it's obvious you don't know what your talking about,and I doubt you ever will.
now this is what i'm talking bout ^^ not quite pretentious enough though could do better i think
The bottom line is, if I went back to HPS it would be a major loss of production.