LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

I was just browsing and found a chart for a 2700k cfl that showed it being extremely red heavy... doesn't seem right?

http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk/HardwareOrders/contents/en-uk/d34.html

What is up with that? If that's accurate couldn't I just add a few 2700k CFLs to change the blue/red ratio?

I doubt those are accurate. Try looking up that info somewhere else for the same bulb. CFL'S usually emit light high in the yellow wavelengths the same as HPS do. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Misleading info there.
What the heck is this?

This doesn't look like the output from an induction lamp, so what the heck is the spd graph from please?
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/173635-new-induction-grow-light-9.html

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WHERE DO YOU GET THIS LIGHT? I WANT 4 OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the correct SPD graph for a 2700K CFL,


I'm having a hard time believing that those middle SPD charts are even real. Everyone here should take a look at this thread over at boards.cannabis.com and figure this crap out. It sounds like someone got sold some bogus type of induction light, but who knows. I don't get it. This person ordered one of these amazing lights and said the CFL did better. Makes me think that the graph is total bogus, false.

FOUND IT,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/500w-induction-grow-light-full-spectrum-Tunnel-flood-replace-1000w-HPS-/220884521877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item336dbe5395

Still hard to believe. Does anyone know anything about these?
Looking at the ebay ad, I can tell straight up that this graph they have is an outright lie. They have a photo of the light turned on where half of the light is yellow and half is white. There is NO WAY that this light produces this amount of 660nm wavelength. As UC has stated before, there is no law against false advertising when it comes to lighting. WHAT THE FUCK? How are these people getting away with selling these lights by advertising a falsely generated spectral analysis? There is no way that these graphs are real. Here is this company's website,

http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/


http://www.ebay.com/itm/150W-Bi-Spectrum-INDUCTION-GROW-LIGHT-300W-LED-450W-HPS-/270884637317?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11fb8a85

http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/

Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.

From what I've read induction is basically long-life fluorescent. The bulb is sealed and the mercury gas excited via induction rather than direct current. The phosphors are just as tune-able as for t5s, the bulbs last for freakin' ever, and they are more efficient generally than t5. Higher upfront cost, and I hadn't heard of that particular company. Inda-grow I think were the ones I was looking at.

Edit: Inda-Gro

I just called them, to get a proPAR 420 unit shipped to my door in 2 days would be $845 total with shipping. And they're all made-in-america with a 10-year warranty. The dude I talked to actually said "he's the owner and I'm the grower and we're mostly in this to help people, especially patients." I like 'em.

regarding inda-gro:
I have sent a number of emails with the owner and am currently saving for one of the proPARs, there are a number of indagro vs HPS/MH grows on youtube, check em out
mpp

edit:
what the propar lacks in blue (for my designs) i will do as sidelighting w/ t5s (coral wave, blue wave, reef wave all bought on clearance booyah)

BlueB said:

http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/

Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.

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That would explain the blue part in the mostly RED spike output....Red LEDs are phosphored/colored lensed/colored plastic over Blue LEDs but the blue still gets through to a significant degree.

This post messed up and wouldnt let me delete it... pls ignore this mess

A few more pics just to show the different hues given inside each box.

my babies...




Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?

This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em

The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now

Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue

^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,Coral Wave,Redsun,FloraSun

Hahaha. Okay. Thanks. I couldn't find a CFL 2700k chart when I searched. The only one I found was that pretty bogus looking one I linked.

Don't bother checking out that CMH thread. There isn't one bit of information on CMH, it's just a bunch of people ranting back and forth calling each other names. Pointless really. I feel bad for the person who started the thread, they should really consider starting a new one now that one has been ruined not 6 pages into it.

Undercover Cop said:

A few more pics just to show the different hues given inside each box.

my babies...
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Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?
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This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em

The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now
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Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue

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^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,Coral Wave,Redsun,FloraSun

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You got it goin on bro! The overall color appearance of both your veg and flower mixtures look spot on! Nice work! I might have to copy what you are doing now! Real nice!

BlueB said:

Don't bother checking out that CMH thread. There isn't one bit of information on CMH, it's just a bunch of people ranting back and forth calling each other names. Pointless really. I feel bad for the person who started the thread, they should really consider starting a new one now that one has been ruined not 6 pages into it.

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heh i was merely pointing out the cmh spd, sux on the bunk thread

mipainpatient said:

heh i was merely pointing out the cmh spd, sux on the bunk thread

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Oh ya, sorry, I wasn't knockin you by any means. I tried to make a couple educated and informative posts there and still like 3 pages later no one has responded yet. They are all into arguing over there.

I've started to incorporate the UVb bulbs into both rooms now. On for 4 hours during the mid part of the light cycle. Got three new strains to work with. All cuttings from a dispensary from the L.A. I believe. I got them from a local friend here in CO. One cut is a blueberry #1, which I can't wait to try growin under the T5 setup. The other 2 cuts are a sour deez cross and some other pure Sativa. They came kinda beat up, so I hope they recover. The blueberry is only 2 inches tall, in the veg cycle, and putting out crazy amounts of trichomes on the leaves. Sure hope they start to grow more.

milfblaster said:

BlueB, do you have an RGB analysis for the CMH bulb?

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Here's that RGB analysis of the CMH bulb that you asked for the other day,

I built a square out of Hydrofarm T5's with two 400 watt CMH's up top. I must say I liked the way the lower buds filled out. No longer were they popcorn.

They were sucking me into the arguing in the CMH thread, so I quit visiting, there is growing to be done.

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I built a square out of Hydrofarm T5's with two 400 watt CMH's up top. I must say I liked the way the lower buds filled out. No longer were they popcorn.

They were sucking me into the arguing in the CMH thread, so I quit visiting, there is growing to be done.

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That's BrickTop for you.
Uncle Ben'll get you too.


I'm going HPS.. Digilux w/ Blue.
Just for a simple onebulb bloom box.
I'll still use T5's for veg / mothers.

I didn't want to CMH + Supplement,
and thisis One bulb to replace.

http://www.advancedledlights.com/products/SpectraBoost-Grow-Spotlight-%2d-15w-High-Intensity-LED-Grow-Light.html

Cheaper than kessil and does not have the the sam lense that supposedly mkes kessils weak.