LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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Lucius Vorenus

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AltarNation said:
Would like to see what kind of results you're getting from LED if you say it doesn't do as well as this... what kind of wattage are you totaling?
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Using 2 Blackstar 240's over 2 plants right now. Almost 4 weeks into flower. Hoping we get some major growth in the next 3 weeks! I mean I like the lights and we are definately growing some dope but nothing like the huge colas that are being showed in the Professeurs pics etc.

Our next grow will be side by side an 8 bulb over 4 plants and in a tent next to it the 2 LEDs over 4 plants to see how they stackup.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Day 44. I was battling gnats for a few weeks, finally got rid of them. if not for those buggers I think they would have swelled up more. Since the gnats have been gone they have been swelling up everyday.. Right now I would say the nugs are the same size as they were under my 1k. they are super frosty so much more than the 1 k. so sticky too. i had to wash my hands with rubbing alcohol after touching them. the t5 definitely out performs a quantum 1000w with a eye hortilux...... They still have a few weeks left. these strains almost double in size in the last week.

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Myles117

Myles117

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glad you won the battle with those roots munching fuckers.

whatd you end up doing to beat them? iv heard a layer of sand on top of soil will make it impossible for larva to hatch. i forget if ur hydro or soil :p real stoned

you right bout the frost!!!! dammmm thats beautiful
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Myles117 said:
glad you won the battle with those roots munching fuckers.

whatd you end up doing to beat them? iv heard a layer of sand on top of soil will make it impossible for larva to hatch. i forget if ur hydro or soil :p real stoned

you right bout the frost!!!! dammmm thats beautiful
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Thanks, I'm doing soil.

The sand and perlite on top does not work. I tried a neem drench and a gognats drench. None of those worked. Pure spray green only killed the flyers (even though it works great for mites).

I was going to try predatory nematodes but if its too cold or too hot, they die off. What worked was the cheapest of all. Mosquito dunks from home depot. It has bacillus thuringlenis in which kills off all larva. I soaked a dunk in a bucket of water for a day and crumbled up and sprinkled the dunks over the soil and then watered them. By the next day they were gone.

drying out soil does not work and neither does H202 (peroxide). the larva can go dormant when soil dries out then wake up when its wet again.


also i found sticky traps are pointless. just take a bowl of water with a little liquid soap and all the flyers will go to it and die. they are searching for moisture and like the smell of soap. if it fills up with dead gnats in one day , you have a gnat problem. as the gnats die off you will see less and less in the bowl. also change out the bowl of water everyday,
 
Myles117

Myles117

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i've never had them fuckers in my gardens thankfully. have had to deal with spider mites tho.

glad to hear the mosquito dunks work well for knat control. they fairly cheap right?
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Myles117 said:
i've never had them fuckers in my gardens thankfully. have had to deal with spider mites tho.

glad to hear the mosquito dunks work well for knat control. they fairly cheap right?
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they are less than $10 you get 6 donut shaped dunks. I use only 4 of them for my entire garden. even my veg and moms. I have had them before when i used to do hydro. This is the first time I ever had them in soil and the first time ive had that many of them too.. I guess gnats are around a lot more this time of year.

also this batch i tried dr earth soil ( which sucks). i went back to ffof. the ones with ocean forest do not seem to attract gnats. the dr earth ones did.
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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hey hyroot, looks like things are going well, nice grow.

I am a little confuse though you say you are using t5 yet the pics looks like you have LEDs as well? Also, you are saying that a bunch of t5s outperform a 1000W HPS!? thanks
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Endur0xX said:
hey hyroot, looks like things are going well, nice grow.

I am a little confuse though you say you are using t5 yet the pics looks like you have LEDs as well? Also, you are saying that a bunch of t5s outperform a 1000W HPS!? thanks
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Have you read any of this thread or just the last few pages????? i posted pics a while ago showing a side by side comparison.

yes one 8 bulb t5 does out perform the 1k. Look at my journal. No led's . Im rocking 3 uvl redsun, 3 fiji purple, 2 coral wave. I had a problem with one blue bulb and swapped in an extra coral wave in its place that I already had. When you have all the bulbs with that spectrum thats how it looks. have you read the first page of this thread? Look at profs pics his look the same way
 
Psytranceorgy

Psytranceorgy

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hyroot said:
Right now I would say the nugs are the same size as they were under my 1k. they are super frosty so much more than the 1 k. so sticky too. i had to wash my hands with rubbing alcohol after touching them. the t5 definitely out performs a quantum 1000w with a eye hortilux...... They still have a few weeks left. these strains almost double in size in the last week.
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Beautiful Hyroot!!! Just beautiful... nice PAR in yo SPECTRUM
 
poind3xter

poind3xter

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I can't see the T5 bringing a greater yield than a 1k. But when you factor in electricity, heat, etc and break it into a grams-per-watt comparison then the T5 should DESTROY the 1k if you're using the proper lights/par. The T5's should also produce great thichs and an overall frostier bud. I love my T5s and will never go back to hps/hid. Can't wait to finally get my aquarium bulbs and post a few pics once it's all up and running.
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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hyroot said:
Thanks, I'm doing soil.

The sand and perlite on top does not work. I tried a neem drench and a gognats drench. None of those worked. Pure spray green only killed the flyers (even though it works great for mites).

I was going to try predatory nematodes but if its too cold or too hot, they die off. What worked was the cheapest of all. Mosquito dunks from home depot. It has bacillus thuringlenis in which kills off all larva. I soaked a dunk in a bucket of water for a day and crumbled up and sprinkled the dunks over the soil and then watered them. By the next day they were gone.

drying out soil does not work and neither does H202 (peroxide). the larva can go dormant when soil dries out then wake up when its wet again.


also i found sticky traps are pointless. just take a bowl of water with a little liquid soap and all the flyers will go to it and die. they are searching for moisture and like the smell of soap. if it fills up with dead gnats in one day , you have a gnat problem. as the gnats die off you will see less and less in the bowl. also change out the bowl of water everyday,
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DIATOMACEOUS EARTH>> like pit of hypodermic needles for bugs.. guaranteed to work on ALL bugs..
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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New pics coming in a few minutes guys.

Pr0f, I think I speak for the whole "club" when I say, we owe ya! Thank you once again for introducing these concepts!!
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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How do you get those pics to appear in line like that without being thumbnailed?
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I don't even know, haha. Well, what I did was, those ones I posted in another thread... and I just right-clicked the thumbnail and selected the "Copy link location" option... then I put that address in between an "IMG" tag and a "/IMG" tag.. (use brackets [ and ] to enclose... I would demonstrate but I think it would interpret it as an image and not show up)
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Woohoo!!! nice plants and beautiful spectrum
wonderful
pics, thanks for sharing!
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Thank you, I am a proud daddy. I still can't believe I managed to pull this off without experience. I owe a lot to this forum's members. I can't wait to see them finish up.
 
Stomata

Stomata

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T5's kick ass. They work great for me. Both veg and flower. I use two 220W 4 bulb duo-tube (biax/2G11) fixtures.

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