Lemme know if I should top or wait

Yo this babe just 20 days in, my first grow but I've researched as much as I can. I've read about Uncle Ben's method and that's what I plan to do but I'm not sure if I should top just yet or wait for the branches at the nodes to grow a little more before I top her. Any help would be appreciated boys
 

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Lowkeygardener

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She looks a little hungry to me. Not sure of the strain but IMO those leaves should be a bit darker green. Also have you checked for pest? Those small white spots on your leaves.. if you spray them that could be why but just bringing it to your attention. As far as your question, I would wait until the 5th node to top. You’ll want to make sure your plant is fully healthy and growing vigorously before stressing her out that much.
 
She looks a little hungry to me. Not sure of the strain but IMO those leaves should be a bit darker green. Also have you checked for pest? Those small white spots on your leaves.. if you spray them that could be why but just bringing it to your attention. As far as your question, I would wait until the 5th node to top. You’ll want to make sure your plant is fully healthy and growing vigorously before stressing her out that much.
Thank you for replying, yeah its a sativa dominant white widow, I'm guessing its supposed to look like that. So, you'd suggest that I start giving her some NPK and macro right? Yeah I realised its better to wait till she grows a bit more before I top her, maybe let the branches at the nodes grow a little before I top her cause I'm gonna top her at the 2nd node despite the growth of those 3 nodes, Shouldn't be a problem right?
 

Lowkeygardener

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Thank you for replying, yeah its a sativa dominant white widow, I'm guessing its supposed to look like that. So, you'd suggest that I start giving her some NPK and macro right? Yeah I realised its better to wait till she grows a bit more before I top her, maybe let the branches at the nodes grow a little before I top her cause I'm gonna top her at the 2nd node despite the growth of those 3 nodes, Shouldn't be a problem right?
I’d need to know what kind of water you are using and what medium as well. As far as the topping, what exactly do you mean top at the 2nd node? The 2nd true node? In my experience I only suggest topping at the highest new growth, anything lower is just wasted time and energy but I could be interpreting your question wrong.
 

ComfortCreator

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The method of topping lower is usually to train the plant, as one poster mentioned above, mainline or manifold are popular.

By topping lower you can train it close to the pot before vertical growth. I believe you are following Uncle Ben's plan.

Topping higher maintains growth, a taller plant, and can achieve similar results it's just taller.
 
I’d need to know what kind of water you are using and what medium as well. As far as the topping, what exactly do you mean top at the 2nd node? The 2nd true node? In my experience I only suggest topping at the highest new growth, anything lower is just wasted time and energy but I could be interpreting your question wrong.
Yo, I'm using tap water but I make sure the ph is between 6-6.5, I'm using this organic potting soil mix with coco peat, manure, vermicompost, added some perlite. It already has a few nutrients but I doubt they're strong enough as required for the plant. I gave her a first very small meal yesterday, not too early to start feeding her right? You got my question right btw, if you cut it down upto the 2nd node, you'll create 4 main colas instead of 2. https://www.rollitup.org/t/uncle-bens-topping-technique-to-get-2-or-4-main-colas.151706/
 
The method of topping lower is usually to train the plant, as one poster mentioned above, mainline or manifold are popular.

By topping lower you can train it close to the pot before vertical growth. I believe you are following Uncle Ben's plan.

Topping higher maintains growth, a taller plant, and can achieve similar results it's just taller.
Yeah thank you for replying, I do plan to follow Uncle Ben's plan but he claims that you can cut it as your 3rd node develops. Do you think its too soon for me to top her? I wanna keep her short and bushy so I guess manifolding is the way to go? or Is it alright if I just top her LST her ?
 

Dank Bongula

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So I should remove the cotyledons and the first jagged set with the single leaf too after topping her? Pretty open to all suggestions lmao
I would decide what you want to do...manifolding, mainline and this uncle Ben thing all sound a little different. Pick one and go with it. Growweedeasy.com has a few tutorials on the main and mani steps.
I am mainlining 3 plants right now, but it really extends the veg time, so if you are in retested I'm quicker harvests, that method may not be best for you.
 

ComfortCreator

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Yeah thank you for replying, I do plan to follow Uncle Ben's plan but he claims that you can cut it as your 3rd node develops. Do you think its too soon for me to top her? I wanna keep her short and bushy so I guess manifolding is the way to go? or Is it alright if I just top her LST her ?
A healthy green plant can be topped as Uncle Ben says. Yours is healthy enough now to top. If you are following Ben, do it and you can even consult with him in his thread!
 
I would decide what you want to do...manifolding, mainline and this uncle Ben thing all sound a little different. Pick one and go with it. Growweedeasy.com has a few tutorials on the main and mani steps.
I am mainlining 3 plants right now, but it really extends the veg time, so if you are in retested I'm quicker harvests, that method may not be best for you.
Yeah no I'm totally for the Uncle Ben's method, its how I have it in mind but the cotyledons and that first set is surely useless considering my cotyledons are already dried up and there's a light burn on that first set. So I might as well chop them off. I cannot afford to mainline or manifold ( lack of time and patience lol) but ill try to shape her the best I can after the topping. Also you suggested I wait for a lil more root growth , how would I get to know that (using a clay pot) or how much longer do you think should I wait? Thanks buddy
 
A healthy green plant can be topped as Uncle Ben says. Yours is healthy enough now to top. If you are following Ben, do it and you can even consult with him in his thread!
You're definitely a comfort creator, ill give you that. I want to top her so bad but I can't see Uncle Ben's account anymore, pretty sure ill go ignored there after I top her.
 
Proper watering technique builds the roots.

Ben also wants fast high quality plants. Follow his method to a T and go for it. No fear just go and you will do great!
Im not sure about the genetics of the seed, hence a little worried about going ahead with it but she does looks healthy, doesn't she? Imma take up ur positivity and just do it lol. Thank you buddy
 

ComfortCreator

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Im not sure about the genetics of the seed, hence a little worried about going ahead with it but she does looks healthy, doesn't she? Imma take up ur positivity and just do it lol. Thank you buddy
Do it.

And let nature lead you to a new place where you find yourself a part of it, in harmony and confident your care and dedication will overcome any issues. You will be fine and so will the plant.

Water correctly!
 

Dank Bongula

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Yeah no I'm totally for the Uncle Ben's method, its how I have it in mind but the cotyledons and that first set is surely useless considering my cotyledons are already dried up and there's a light burn on that first set. So I might as well chop them off. I cannot afford to mainline or manifold ( lack of time and patience lol) but ill try to shape her the best I can after the topping. Also you suggested I wait for a lil more root growth , how would I get to know that (using a clay pot) or how much longer do you think should I wait? Thanks buddy
5-7 nodes will ensure good root growth and less impact to plant after you chop everything off.
 
One last thing, Im guessing this is just a burn as its above 35-40 C here most times and I prolly fucked up by keeping the light too close lmao. ( I leave her out in the day, bring her inside in the evening and give her a 1000W LED with a 105W power outage for the rest of the night ). How far should I keep the lights? Or else I'm totally wrong and that's cause of lack of nutrients but that's not a telltale sign for that right? Thanks a lot for everything
 

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ComfortCreator

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Any issues so far are light and environment. The first 3 weeks are mostly autopilot. Seedlings need TLC.

Lighting is a science, get a phone app and start measuring a bit. Maybe 15k right now is good.
 
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