Let there be white: mc130p's horticultural adventure continues

Scotch089

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Hell it was the shit before '11 that made me join... I lurked for a good couple years before joining up. Beef endo Psu puff fly spheda FRAN

Ppl rocking red dragons lol...and fighting over t5 spectrums.... the shit now makes arguing about fluroescent sound good anymore... at least there was something constructive in the midst of it all.

Fran, I love foil tape lol. Mcs BD runs were probably the best production panel runs next to the AT600 runs g did. I'm sure a lot of it was the surprise factor, but even then...

Nothing like the good ol riu... minus flora lol
 

mc130p

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Hi everyone, thanks for the kind words. I did need a break. Looks like the site survived without me:)

And you guys are right, even if this place is a craphole, it's my favorite craphole on the internet, haha. i love and hate you guys:peace::blsmoke::finger:

Here's the tent-IG200, 3000K CXB3590, 4000K CXB3590. Plants keep getting bigger every grow-they're drinking 2 gallons per day-when I started I got away with 1 gallon per day:) 2 LSD, 1 C99, and Tangie x Ghost Train Haze #1. This is the end of week 5 at 13/11 from seed. (Long story short, a second, plague-like reinfestation of mites caused me to kill everything like the angel of bleachy death)
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FranJan

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:clap:bongsmilie:hug::clap::clap:

Glad to see you back champ. Was just thinking, "Damn when's that boy gonna come back? I can't understand half these mofo's around here anymore!" :)

I was gonna dedicate my Cup entrant to you. I'm using Miracle Grow but I'm gonna do it hempy perlite with all that good chicken shit built in. No nutes needed LOL.

I hate to ask but I guess the Grinspoon got mite-ed :cry:?

It's like a disease the way "we" can't stay away from this place. Weird, but where we gonna go? Go to 420mag and argue with Sara about efficiency? I don't think so.

Did I say I'm glad you're "back" :).
 

Socalrob

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I don't know whether to throw you a like or troll your thread. Hosting the competition wasn't my first choice but you taking a breather turned into a blessing. I drove down to San Diego and met Darryl the owner of Inda Gro and had a great time. He's got some good things going on and I'm glad to befriend him. He's a big fan of the party cup comp. And not just him, I've met a number of good people because of this fortune, ^^^^^^^^^^ including a member here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ who I won't front off, who's friend drove out here to SoCal and went with me to a grow expo and hung out for the day.
No kidding, you stepping away led to a very cool chain of events and thanks for that. All that aside, you were one of the first people I started following when I joined RIU and I have to say nobody rocks a ceramic pot or a 16 oz cup like you do. Dude 46 grams in a friggin cup?, nobody saw that coming. I may be hosting but you're still the champ in my book. Glad to see you back, don't let the bullshit get to you. Steer clear and have fun.
 

mc130p

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Thanks guys. Sorry, no party cup this time for me, I'm still pretty busy with work...maybe the next one:) I'm pretty confident that I can improve on my last cup entry though. @Socalrob , my apologies for the initial inconvenience to you with regards to the party cup, but I'm really glad that things are working out well for you and that you're enjoying yourself. Things worked out well for me too, as I was able to focus on getting some research projects finished up.

So about the mites, I did clear them the first time, and I was able to harvest the Grinspoon and smoke it all ( I have to say, it is my favorite strain so far. I'm starting two more in a few weeks, once it gets closer to harvest in the flower tent.) I never did see any mites on the grinspoon though, but like I said a long time ago...I didn't see them, but they might have still been there-no apparent leaf damage or webbing on the Grin though.

I figured out that the mites survived on my rose bush that I used to have in the veg tent, and I reinfected the flower tent when I brought in a Liberty Haze to flower. I tried more predatory mites, sprays, ethanol, pretty much everything but they seemed resistant to everything. I do have some of the Hot Shot, but I never used them because the warning on the package seemed too intense for me.

I basically just threw away everything that was 'disposable' or plant matter, all my dirt, and cleaned every surface inside the tent very thoroughly. I even threw away the scrubber and bought a new one because of paranoia, hah. I scrubbed all the pots and saucers too. I haven't had any problems so far.... Seems like that was the option I should have originally gone with, at least for the veg tent. I'm calling the problem solved, but I'm still on the lookout for anything that looks like mite damage.
 

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FranJan

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Hot Shot =Nuclear Armageddon. They do make it sound scary. No Mighty Wash?

That's it. I'm growing Grinspoon! I like that old school shit. I wonder what it would be like with a three month cure? You ever see those Illumitex wall gardens? I think growing that shit like a vine on a wall for 6 to 8 months could produce some great nugs. Plus I could keep it on one of the grow closet's wall while my other strains grow at normal times on the floor :). I like landraces and those older strains but always hated those 16-18 week flowering times and smallish yields. Thanx for the update.

Did I say I'm glad.......LOL
 

Socalrob

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I was just a little bit in shock when you withdrew and I pulled away from Sevren in the voting, I realized I would have to host the next one. Kind of took me by surprise. Really the only negative was when I gave a shoutout to the sponsors when I started this round I was immediately warned by the mods about prizes and sponsors. I'm not going to worry about all that, just going to watch everyone compete and have some fun along the way.
I wanted to ask you, you preordered the grasshopper before I did in early May, have you got it yet? I know they only shipped less than 600 so far and I got another email a couple weeks ago saying they were ramping up production in September. My account still says ship in September.
 

mc130p

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@Socalrob Unfortunately, I still don't have a grasshopper...my shipping is delayed like yours. I'm hoping for September, but really, I'm not expecting it anytime soon. Hopefully I will be surprised soon with a shipment notification:)

@FranJan you won't be disappointed with the grinspoon. I gave a bunch to my mom, and she still has some left...she say's to me, "son, i've never smoked dope like that before," hahaha. She just repeats that whenever I ask her if she has any left. It's definitely the old school sativa traits.
 

captainmorgan

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Those Hot Shots are bad news,don't use it inside a home your living in,maybe a pole barn without animals is ok with a plant in veg but not flower.
 

bicit

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Welcome back champ! Looks like things are going well.

I don't understand why you guy's consider this place a craphole.... it's much nicer here than other places on the interwebs.
 

captainmorgan

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yeah, that's what it seemed like to me, and it's why i never used it
I remember when I was a kid and we had a summer only cabin,we would hang 1 of what they called Shell No Pest Strips at the time in the Fall and in the spring there was still not a living insect in the whole place,nasty stuff.
 

salmonetin

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...eco voices...

...info about mites...

Biological Control: How to prevent Spider Mites in a Greenhouse Environment



Spider mites, yet tiny, are a huge problem for growers.
A mite infestation can potentially become a long term problem of untreatable viruses and bacterial infections when not handled correctly and in time.
This article will give you some insights and tips as to what you can do to prevent and handle a spider mite infestation.

The Two Spotted Spider Mite initially is not easily noticed and quick to infest.
While mites live on the undersides of the foliage, early visual symptoms include flecking* of the leaves and a dusty feel on the upper and lower surface of the leaves.
This “dust” is the exoskeletons of the mites.
Later, a more obvious webbing appears, usually near the new, tender growth.
Once the mites diminish the plants quality, the females catch a ride in the wind and move onward to juicier plants.

Mites come to maturity two weeks after hatching.
At maturity the female mite can lay thousands of eggs which takes only 3 days to hatch.
This is how the mites go from being almost unnoticeable, to a full-blown infestation.
Not only do the mites cause stress for the plant, but the quality of final product is impacted.
This insect moves from plant to plant, spreading pathogens along the way.
If the mite infestation is in a room with stock/mother plants, then this can potentially be a serious long term problem of untreatable viruses and bacterial infections.

Light matters

The Two Spotted Spider Mite is attracted to plants under stress; for example, those with poor fertilization and improper watering as examples of stressors.
Mites prefer warm, dry conditions.
Growers using LEDs have noted that plants being grown under LED grow lights have reduced insect infestation.
In the case of spider mites, this may be because of a lower temperature on the plant surface.
The reduction may also be due to the insects attraction to certain light wavelengths.

Recent scholarly studies (Lethal Effects of Short-Wavelength Visible Light on Insects) demonstrate blue light decreases egg production and insect survivorship.
There is mounting evidence to suggest blue LED light may inhibit spider mite growth.
Light that radiates intense infrared (IR) heat and dries out the environment, such as that from HPS lamps, acts as a catalyst for an infestation in production.
LED grow lights, such as the Heliospectra LX60, do not radiate IR heat, and as such, do not dry out the plants.
The combination of wavelength control and low heat production gives rise to LED grow lights becoming a part of a growers Integrated Pest Management program.

Be careful when using insecticides

A common mistake for treating plants against mites would be to apply a broad spectrum insecticide instead of using a miticide.
Mites have eight legs and are a variant of a spider - they are not insects, but arachnids.
Broadly speaking, insecticides are specific to soft bodied insects, larvae or arachnids and often target a specific phase of development to a specific type of pest.
A broad spectrum insecticide could potentially kill any existing natural predators to the mite, thus increasing the population of spider mites.

Develop a predatory insect program

Build a relationship with an insectary and develop a predatory insect program.
Ladybugs fly away and mantids eat everything, including each other.
For spider mites, the predatory mite species, Phytoseiulus, released on a planned schedule, will greatly reduce or even eliminate a mite outbreak. These voracious mites scout out their food source.
If there are no mites to be eaten, they will die away.
Lacewing larvae are another great addition to a predatory insect control program.
The lacewing larvae are not particularly picky and will also eat aphids and whitefly.

...my note... predatory way only works on vegetative and first weeks on floration time.... on avanzated floration we cant do anything...

It doesn’t have to be complicated

The first line of defense against spider mites would be a cold water spray. Spider mites do not like to be cold or wet, so be sure to spray the undersides of the foliage since that is where the mites reside.
A teaspoon of Dr. Bronner’s peppermint soap (or any non lotion dish soap) to 1 gallon of water works great as a curative and as a preventative.
The peppermint leaves an undesirable smell and taste to almost all insects and arachnids.
Neem oil is also known to work well as a preventative measure.

With all this said.
We hope these insights and tips help you in your spider mite battle, or even better, helps prevent any new infestations in your greenhouse.

*Discoloration in the form of a mark or dot with small patches of colour

http://snip.ly/wpYS

Lethal Effects of Short-Wavelength Visible Light on Insects
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep07383.pdf

on other way ...i saw other mites worst than spider mites...the micromites the only way to fight with them....start from 0...with extreme clean sesion... with and all recipients walls etc... its too similar to virus attach on plants... plants with abnormal leaves... but are micromites... beware of them... clean system help a lot... but hard to fight against micromites...i saw it....better go with uvc or atomic bomb...this microscopic mites are great mothefuckers...ou yeah..

:peace:

Saludos
 
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captainmorgan

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I had mites a few years back and bought some predator mites,they actually sent 3 different ones that liked slightly different environments. I suppose the idea is that one of them would match your given environment and thrive.
 
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