Lets talk AeroCloners

LoudBlunts said:

hmmmm, aero cloners?

ill bite! i get uber sexy roots in 3-5 days, 1-2week is just triple- xrated taboo porn.
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nice work everyone

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Great post, and roots in 3-5 days sounds pretty great to me, i think i might have to spring for a cycle timer and stop running my puddle box 24\7.

ty but your roots still look good to me bro! 24/7 or not

normally when i do 24/7 i get more hydro cloning type roots

and/or my pump heat up the water too much

the next revision to my cloner prolly will be a chiller and a new top

LoudBlunts said:

ty but your roots still look good to me bro! 24/7 or not

normally when i do 24/7 i get more hydro cloning type roots

and/or my pump heat up the water too much

the next revision to my cloner prolly will be a chiller and a new top

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Cheers!

I'm currently cloning a batch of nirvana white rhino (god knows why) and they're giving me a hell of a time, one pheno had roots after 5 days and the rest took about 10 before they were an inch long, i like to grow a real nice set of roots 'cause i'm just putting them stright in hydroton and it seems they need to be strong as fuck just to root. Now, as you prophetically foretold my pump is heating my water to the point where my roots are starting to turn yellow/brown. As a temporary (and kinda ghetto) solution i think i'm gonna freeze some blocks of PHed water and put it in my Rez. I never really computed that if i'm not running the pump all the time it wont get as hot , i might be getting that cycle timer sooner than i thought.

dude no sweat, im freezing bottles right now for my bigger aeroponics system

man i cant wait to get my 2 chillers, i was supposed to be got them, but fuck that will be almost a grand...dont know if im ready...but fuck it...lol

so fuck it, freeze bottles. im having problems keeping them from floating

p.s. try some clonex with the stubborn white rhino.


i have some white russian, hashberry, alpha diesel, superskunk, power plant in the cloner

and let me know what kinda timer you want

i got my caps art-dne for like 60-70 bucks

and i got the sentinel drt-1 for like 100 i think

Hey thanks for the info Loundblunts.

I have a few questions about quickie (under a week) aerocloning:

Room temp?

Water Temp?

Any nutes in water?

Using RO or Tap water?

Misting?

Using a dome?

-GTS

i can try to help ya...water temp i would say 70-75 keeping the pump running 24/7 should take care of that....room temp i do mine in a closet so it stays warm i really dont worry about it....as for nutes i have done it in a week with no nutes....i have done it in a week with superthrive everyones diffrent....i use tape water phed to 5.0...misting is a must for me atleast i mist 3-6 times a day lightly not heavey....a dome i really dont think u need one at all thats what the misting is for in my guess....gl i hope i helped...

luielugatz said:

i can try to help ya...water temp i would say 70-75 keeping the pump running 24/7 should take care of that....room temp i do mine in a closet so it stays warm i really dont worry about it....as for nutes i have done it in a week with no nutes....i have done it in a week with superthrive everyones diffrent....i use tape water phed to 5.0...misting is a must for me atleast i mist 3-6 times a day lightly not heavey....a dome i really dont think u need one at all thats what the misting is for in my guess....gl i hope i helped...

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This is all pretty acurate, just a couple things.
You want your temps to be at least 75 (any cooler and it will take a looong time) and no more than 80 (any warmer and your stems will get mushy) until you see root nubs, at which point i do i water change and drop the temps to about 68 and add some prop-o-gator. Its my understanding that as long as your roots are happy you dont really need to mist (although my veg\clone room is usually about 60-65% humidity)
Also i use 35% h202 at 1 ml per gallon throughout the process.
Good luck

no prob man.....

LoudBlunts said:

and let me know what kinda timer you want

i got my caps art-dne for like 60-70 bucks

and i got the sentinel drt-1 for like 100 i think

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lol yeah, but it is definitely worth going for the DRT. I promise you will be very happy with digital timer.

Also with you on the chillers loud. They are expensive, but dropping ice in a res is a real bitch and lets face it...a simple temperature controller won't keep your reservoir in line at 68F for 2 months straight.

I have also experienced better results using the 1 min on 4 min off pump timing.

Good thread.

gvega187 said:

lol yeah, but it is definitely worth going for the DRT. I promise you will be very happy with digital timer.

Also with you on the chillers loud. They are expensive, but dropping ice in a res is a real bitch and lets face it...a simple temperature controller won't keep your reservoir in line at 68F for 2 months straight.

I have also experienced better results using the 1 min on 4 min off pump timing.

Good thread.

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the cap art-dne is nice timer too!

1min on 4 min off.... i've tried....kinda hurt my setup.... i would think longer time on...should be offset with longer off times as well...i guess it really doesnt matter just as long as the roots have air

i rock 20-30 seconds on and 3-4 mins off

Ya know, I've been thinking the same about a longer off time.
I've been reading how some strains do better in wetter conditions, and some better in dryer conditions.

BTW, I run the CAP ART DNE. It seems to be ok for what I do, but the daylight setting doesn't seem to be useful to me. You can't just leave your sprayers off for a full 12hr night cycle, so whats the point?
The other thing i don't like is the accuracy. You put the dial on what you think is 60 secs, but it really isn't...

has anyone tried to run a basic timer on like a 15 min on 15 off cycle? or is that to long dry? I cant afford a 80 dollar timer and have an extra 15 min. one.

im based in socal. Can anybody tell me where to get some clones?

I have ran my timer on A 15/15 cycle and worked ok!

LoudBlunts said:

i built me an aerocloner outta a

-strong/toughbox from Lowes about 20 bucks
-2" netpots (40 site)
-2" neoprene collars
-250gph magdrive pump with filter already (Danner makes one hell of a pump, imho) These are the same pumps in numerous premade sold hydro setup & systems
-i use fogger sprayers (something like the ones in the grocery store in the produce section). I initially wanted 3/4gph sprayers, but they wasnt working to my advantage, so i installed 1gph which give me about a droplet size of 60-80 microns.

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This design is great.
I love aerocloners in general, but I was under the impression that the majority of containers available leaked, though I guess I haven't tried for myself.
Is it the angle of your sprayers that prevent that here? You don't seem to have sealed it in any extra way.

I am looking for a way to build a fairly high capacity unit, and it is restrictive to think only in terms of Rubbermaid, so if you haven't had any problems with leaks that means great things.

Does anybody have an idea of a good container for an 80+ capacity unit?

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Also, LoudBlunts, where can I find more info about your DIY ebb and flow tray project? How do you deal with UV damage to the cheap plastic?

just buy some 1/2" foam weather stipping it sticky on one side, put it around the perimater of your tub and it should stop any leaks it like 5 bucks at wally worldor homo depot

BirdTooth said:

This design is great.
I love aerocloners in general, but I was under the impression that the majority of containers available leaked, though I guess I haven't tried for myself.
Is it the angle of your sprayers that prevent that here? You don't seem to have sealed it in any extra way.

I am looking for a way to build a fairly high capacity unit, and it is restrictive to think only in terms of Rubbermaid, so if you haven't had any problems with leaks that means great things.

Does anybody have an idea of a good container for an 80+ capacity unit?

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Also, LoudBlunts, where can I find more info about your DIY ebb and flow tray project? How do you deal with UV damage to the cheap plastic?

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i have had no problems with leaking at all.... (well not that i can tell) tbh, i take shit for granted...i know that could be my cocky work attitude....but i havent had any problems.
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weather stripping would & should work in the event that any leaks should happen.

and i cant take full originality credit... as i found the idea of which tub to use and how many sites....but other than that..i freestyled the idea from painting the yellow top black first, letting it dry then coating it with white... netpots and neoprene collars all the way to the custom manifold

you can find the original here: http://projects.greenmangardens.net/content/view/25/39/1/0/

if ya ask me...mines is better...so i guess i can take the originality credit!!!


far as my ebb and flow...its really nothing. simple n easy, anybody can do it.

i dont have a diy tutorial or nothing, but if you wanted, i guess i could do a tutorial for both aerocloner and the ebb and flow.

i posted a few pics at links here- https://www.rollitup.org/2307404-post13.html (https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/178782-thinking-going-coco.html#post2307404)

and here - https://www.rollitup.org/2309589-post1343.html (https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/109497-sog-growers-wanted-34.html#post2309589)

lemme know if you cant see those.


real simple... the hole for the bulkhead ebb and flow fittings are35mm or 1-3/8 hole saw size.

and to be perfectly honest, you dont even need the bulkhead ebb and flow fittings from the hydro shop....you can goto lowes, get some grommets and some poly tubing.... and waalaah!!! adjustable ebb and flow fittings