Letter from protective services

A while back, someone told family services that I had crack in my house. So, doing their job they had to investigate. I admitted that I smoke pot but the social worker seemed to be more concerned with the crack claim. So, we talked, she talked to the kids, blah blah blah. She asks if I would mind going to take a drug test, to test for the crack. I agreed but reminded her that I would test positive for pot. She told me that the house is in respectable order considering some remodeling going on, and the kids are clean, respectful, and taken care of. She tells me that pot is a pain in her ass. Anyways, she said she is not worried about the pot after seeing my environment. So, next day I go piss. A few days later she calls and tells me that the results are back and I was clean except for the pot, and she was going to be making a recommendation to her boss. I get a letter today stating that I am NOT in need of services from family protection. The case is closed.

Now, I am on official documents that I smoke pot and family services is not even going to pursue it any further. I think that is cool. They know I smoke and they are not going to do a thing about it, even with kids living in the house. So, now I wonder how I can exploit this and use it against lawmakers, judges, or whoever else. Or should I just keep doing what I am doing and maintain my low profile. The only problem is that every now and then I get in the mood to stir up the shit some, and I would love to stir this shit up.

Dont play with fire. It will burn you.

play it cool and you can get away with anything

you got off free, dont fuck it up

Dirtyboy said:

Dont play with fire. It will burn you.

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I know, but hell man it would be fun as hell to look at someone and say "family services knows I smoke and they are not doing a thing about it, so bite me." Temptation is a bitch.

^ you'll regret it.

rkm said:

.... say "family services knows I smoke and they are not doing a thing about it, so bite me."

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Then they'll fire the lady who came to inspect your house, and fire her boss who let it slide. Then they'll raid your house, take your kids, write you up on charges, and condemn your house. Obviously worst case scenario, but you've got a lot to lose.

SmokePens said:

Then they'll fire the lady who came to inspect your house, and fire her boss who let it slide. Then they'll raid your house, take your kids, write you up on charges, and condemn your house. Obviously worst case scenario, but you've got a lot to lose.

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Well put. But wouldn't it be nice to put them in a position(our own system at that) of where they had to explain why they felt it was not a problem. My kids are fine, even though I smoke the devil plant, but they feel that my responsibilities are first and foremost, even if there is weed there. See where I am going with it? And if they had to go to the stand and testify to the reason of their "negligence" that the entire system could be brought to light, if done correctly? Obviously, family services has the power to make things difficult as it is, but the way I see it and according to the paperwork they are on my side in this case. If they wanted to make things difficult, they certainly could.

It's really not worth it... there are plenty of cases where CPS would take your kids for smoking pot. You should be happy with what happened and feel safer knowing that people are changing their minds, dont put the spotlight on them.

rkm said:

Well put. But wouldn't it be nice to put them in a position(our own system at that) of where they had to explain why they felt it was not a problem. My kids are fine, even though I smoke the devil plant, but they feel that my responsibilities are first and foremost, even if there is weed there. See where I am going with it? And if they had to go to the stand and testify to the reason of their "negligence" that the entire system could be brought to light, if done correctly? Obviously, family services has the power to make things difficult as it is, but the way I see it and according to the paperwork they are on my side in this case. If they wanted to make things difficult, they certainly could.

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Absolutely. It's always fun when you can turn around and point out the flaws in the system TO the system. Especially when they stomp on so many people for the wrong reasons. Safety in numbers however.

SocataSmoker said:

It's really not worth it... there are plenty of cases where CPS would take your kids for smoking pot. You should be happy with what happened and feel safer knowing that people are changing their minds, dont put the spotlight on them.

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Oh, I agree 100%, but at the same time I also feel that this type of information should be released to the public.

For example, and I am making shit up to make my point but...

6 out of 10 calls, hard drugs. They clean house and out of business, and everyone goes to jail
9 out of 10 calls, pot. Reasonable quantity, everything is fine, no harm, no foul. Nobody goes to jail.

I mean, I feel as if at least I should get the entire report released to me and add that to some of the statistics. Add it to the numbers out there where states for the most part are tired of pot when it is used responsibly. I see a potential for using this case as a basis to the general public. And maybe to sway the public thinking.

I'd call the lady back at CPS and honestly ask her about what she thinks of you doing a report on it... at least get the okay from the CPS office you'll be referring too, or else she could very well lose her job, who knows... it may be a requirement to call the police if any illegal drugs are found, and if she didn't she may be in deep water ya know? Just look out for those that looked out for you.

SocataSmoker said:

I'd call the lady back at CPS and honestly ask her about what she thinks of you doing a report on it... at least get the okay from the CPS office you'll be referring too, or else she could very well lose her job, who knows... it may be a requirement to call the police if any illegal drugs are found, and if she didn't she may be in deep water ya know? Just look out for those that looked out for you.

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On top of that, if you have children why would you wanna cause trouble just to prove a point? You're honestly not gonna prove anything. If you wanna do something donate to norml and find out who you can write in your state to legalize marijuana.

Don't do anything. The government agent used her discretion and cut you some slack. If you throw this case in the face of policymakers, they will ensure that all drug use will be taken into consideration in the future. The government agent who helped you by not making an issue of it could lose her job. In response, government agents will persecute all pot smokers in their case files to cover their own asses.

Johnnyorganic said:

Don't do anything. The government agent used her discretion and cut you some slack. If you throw this case in the face of policymakers, they will ensure that all drug use will be taken into consideration in the future. The government agent who helped you by not making an issue of it could lose her job. In response, government agents will persecute all pot smokers in their case files to cover their own asses.

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Will they??? Remember, she told me weed is a pain in her ass, so it is probably a pain the ass for other social workers as well, and none of them want to deal with those cases. I dunno, I prolly wont do or say anything, but I wont hesitate to throw this in someones face if the right opportunity arises. The policy makers also cant do anything if the workers get to a point that they quit reporting BS claims. Oh, and while I do not want this lady to lose her job, I am sure she has a family too. But, if it comes down between her and me, I am not going to go down without a fight, she is the one that made the report. She could have turned me over but she didnt, thats her problem, not mine. Its all about me in the end, I am sorry, I dont have any loyalty to her.

I'm not talking about loyalty. I am talking about this woman saving you from a world of shit. You don't owe her anything, but she didn't owe you anything either and chose to go easy on you. That marijuana is a pain in her ass is irrelevant.

My point is is that if you stir up the shit, caseworkers will never go easy on pot users again.

Johnnyorganic said:

I'm not talking about loyalty. I am talking about this woman saving you from a world of shit. You don't owe her anything, but she didn't owe you anything either and chose to go easy on you. That marijuana is a pain in her ass is irrelevant.

My point is is that if you stir up the shit, caseworkers will never go easy on pot users again.

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Good points. I know to just let it go, but man I have been in one of those moods here lately where I just want to be a dick.

rkm said:

Oh, I agree 100%, but at the same time I also feel that this type of information should be released to the public.

For example, and I am making shit up to make my point but...

6 out of 10 calls, hard drugs. They clean house and out of business, and everyone goes to jail
9 out of 10 calls, pot. Reasonable quantity, everything is fine, no harm, no foul. Nobody goes to jail.

I mean, I feel as if at least I should get the entire report released to me and add that to some of the statistics. Add it to the numbers out there where states for the most part are tired of pot when it is used responsibly. I see a potential for using this case as a basis to the general public. And maybe to sway the public thinking.

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your not a special case. Deparment of children and families doesnt hassle with weed, and in alot of cases they don't do much for other drugs without a serious reason....and even then they don't.

Either way, you were an idiot for ever co-operating... It's their job to fuck up decent family's, and put your kids in foster care so that some gay couple can buy your kids.

I'm really happy that you got away with this one.

Close call.

GiantEthiopian said:

Either way, you were an idiot for ever co-operating... It's their job to fuck up decent family's, and put your kids in foster care so that some gay couple can buy your kids.

I'm really happy that you got away with this one.

Close call.

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No, it was not a close call. I am sorry, you know nothing. Once the entire investigation was over, they really could not do anything. Co-operating was the best thing I did. They thouroughly investigated, They talked to my boss, they talked to my ex, they talked to the parents of the kids I coach, they talked to everyone. They saw how well my kids are taken care of, and basically if they wanted to do anything, my kids would be taking steps backwards. Anything they did would only hurt the kids, which is what they do not want. Honestly, they really cant touch me,, if they do they will only hurt the kids. and they know that. Plus the fact my oldest looked at her and said if "you take us away, we will always come back here." Yes, I feel a little cocky, and what not. But it is pretty much set in stone that my kids are more than taken care of, even if their mother had custody of them, she could not provide what I provide for them. Its nice to have a good job.

Yes, they could run me through the system if they wanted to, but then again they will see the damage they will do if they push the issue. The biggest thing that got me through this is the fact that I KNOW MY RIGHTS, they cannot screw with me on that. Knowing my rights, is what has gotten me as far as I have with this. They have certainly tried to put me in a position to screw myself, but I did not allow them to.

Do you know who turned you in? That is the element in this drama that must be addressed. Anyone who pulled that shit on me would live to regret ever knowing my name.