Lettuce

Diabolical666

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Go with a leaf lettuce, I can't grow a head of iceberg lettuce for anything. Lettuce is really easy and I don't think you'll have any problems... I just cleared the straw and leaves off my raised beds the other day and sprinkled some seeds around, gave them a light spray with a hose and I should have a lot of lettuce soon. It will bolt when it gets around 85 out for awhile and then it will taste awful... if you leave it growing it will go to seed over the summer and it's easy to save the seeds.
I was starting to worry, but my seeds finally popped and little tiny sprouts are showing...boy are they tiny..I guess I expected a huge leaf to pop out immediatly lol. I went with the green leaf. Cant wait to see what it will do.
I started jalapenos and cukes indoors, they are flowering already...Does anyone know when I transplant them outdoors if it will shock them ? maybe the flowers will fall off from transplant and enviro shock?
 

Dave's Not Here

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It's raining out today and then it's supposed to warm back up a little... hopefully my lettuce and arugula will be sprouting... seems like I usually have lettuce going by now but I'm probably just being impatient. I picked up some spinach to plant too... love
I was starting to worry, but my seeds finally popped and little tiny sprouts are showing...boy are they tiny..I guess I expected a huge leaf to pop out immediatly lol. I went with the green leaf. Cant wait to see what it will do.
I started jalapenos and cukes indoors, they are flowering already...Does anyone know when I transplant them outdoors if it will shock them ? maybe the flowers will fall off from transplant and enviro shock?
I'm still waiting for mine, low temps haven't been helping but it rained today and it's supposed to warm up over the weekend and I think I'll start seeing some sprouts... it grows fast! @willienelson1stgrow might be eating salads already lol.

I think you'll see the opposite when you transplant your jalapenos and cucumbers, everything always takes off once it warms up and I plant them in the ground.
 

willienelson1stgrow

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not enough for a salad yet, growth is stunned. The tops of the rockwool have algae. I don't think they like the led, the sprouts that have less light getting to them look better.
 

willienelson1stgrow

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I put what I had so far in a sandwich and started over, I need to put the seeds deeper into the rockwool and I'm also gonna go with different lighting, actually they will be in a different grow space cooler Temps, cooler lighting right next to my clones
 

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Dave's Not Here

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I put what I had so far in a sandwich and started over, I need to put the seeds deeper into the rockwool and I'm also gonna go with different lighting, actually they will be in a different grow space cooler Temps, cooler lighting right next to my clones
mmmm microgreens... I have zero experience with hydroponics and rockwool! Lettuce likes the cool temps though, around 60-70 degrees seems to be optimum, I doubt if it's a heavy nutrient feeder but I could be wrong!
 

OneEyedCat

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We always do mesclun or spring mix in a plastic snow sled with 3 inches or so of soil, water every am in the summer and trim what you want before dinner and one 4 ft by 18 inch sled will give enough for several salads per week for two people. This year we we do more.
All my tomatoes popped under in peat pellets, 47 of 48! They are almost to the domes 4 days after popping.
I don't have enough small pots for all of them and it is still 14 degrees F today with 2+ feet of snow on the ground. Any suggestions for keeping them alive without enough small pots?
 

Dave's Not Here

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We always do mesclun or spring mix in a plastic snow sled with 3 inches or so of soil, water every am in the summer and trim what you want before dinner and one 4 ft by 18 inch sled will give enough for several salads per week for two people. This year we we do more.
All my tomatoes popped under in peat pellets, 47 of 48! They are almost to the domes 4 days after popping.
I don't have enough small pots for all of them and it is still 14 degrees F today with 2+ feet of snow on the ground. Any suggestions for keeping them alive without enough small pots?
In my experience the tomatoes will be fine in the trays but probably won't grow as fast as they would if they were transplanted. Last year I had quite a few in trays a lot longer than I should have and they stayed relatively small until I put them in the ground and then they took off. The ones I had transplanted into solo cups were much bigger starts but in the end it didn't really seem to matter.
 

Dirty Harry

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What kind of nutrients?
Cheap Schultz all purpose plant food (powder that goes into a hose applicator, 1/2 teaspoon per gal of water). Nothing fancy or expensive. When the tomatoes or whatever gets a five gallon bucket, I use two part Dutch master flower hydro nutes that I have left. Since these are just garden plants, I have not been doing any PPM/PH checks at all as most will end up in soil outside. I will say, other than cherry tomatoes, do not expect to bring a full sized tomato to harvest under florescent lights. I have some under a 400W MH right now, and they are flowering.
Lettuce and small fruits/vegs can be completed under florescent lights if you have enough.
 

Dave's Not Here

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Seeing some tiny lettuce, arugula and pak choi sprouts outside today, I hope they survive the coming couple nights of cold temps, down to the lower and mid 20's. I also have some onions planted, hope they make it! I'd rather lose it all though than not get started early for where I'm at, as soon as the snow melted and the ground was almost dry enough to work I was out there. :-)
 

resinhead

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We always do mesclun or spring mix in a plastic snow sled with 3 inches or so of soil, water every am in the summer and trim what you want before dinner and one 4 ft by 18 inch sled will give enough for several salads per week for two people. This year we we do more.
All my tomatoes popped under in peat pellets, 47 of 48! They are almost to the domes 4 days after popping.
I don't have enough small pots for all of them and it is still 14 degrees F today with 2+ feet of snow on the ground. Any suggestions for keeping them alive without enough small pots?
Nice idea with the snowsled! It's hard to find affordable containers.
Today I picked up a large (2.75'x1.75') concrete mixing tub from Home Depot. It was about $15 bucks, and I plan on using it for a raised bed for lettuce, or a hydro raft.
 

plimsoul

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I never have any success with lettuce, spinach, leafy things. My tomatoes and herbs are fine, my chillis wonderful, but greens? Rarely get past the second set of true leaves before giving up the goats.
 

Dave's Not Here

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I never have any success with lettuce, spinach, leafy things. My tomatoes and herbs are fine, my chillis wonderful, but greens? Rarely get past the second set of true leaves before giving up the goats.
I've never grown greens indoors but in the garden I just let it grow, if you're getting two sets of leaves it sounds like all you need to do is let it grow longer. Lettuce likes the cool temps, if you're trying to grow it in the hot summer with your tomatoes and chilis it probably won't do very well. I'm planting a bunch more over the next couple days and I will pull most of it except what I let bolt for seeds by the end of May probably depending on the weather.
 

plimsoul

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It isn't that I don't let it try to grow, but after the second set of leaves it tends to give up all by itself. I planted some a few weeks ago, so we'll see how they go this time round.
 

Dave's Not Here

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It isn't that I don't let it try to grow, but after the second set of leaves it tends to give up all by itself. I planted some a few weeks ago, so we'll see how they go this time round.
How's your lettuce going? Here's a question, do you keep your lettuce moist and give them plenty of sun? I water mine about every day that it doesn't rain.

So far I've got sprouts and some small plants of...

Many different types of lettuce
Kale
Arugula
Peas - shell and sugar peas
Pak Choi
lots of onions, plants and sets

I've also planted some:
more lettuce
Alfalfa
Spinach
Carrots
Swiss Chard
Broccoli

Working on new spots and reworking old spots everyday that it doesn't rain too, shovel, rake, and one of those twist cultivator things, my body hurts but I can feel myself toning up quickly. Once I start eating all that lettuce I'll easily have knocked off 20lbs of the weight I put on during the winter.
 

Abiqua

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Not too hijack...but take a look at this...Dr Duke used to be my go to site for a few things....It is on a level few others are.....

but here is a pdf of Dandelion....list of chemicals sampled in throughout all parts of the plant, their concentration and even their effect[ all clickable links...what sucks is that its almost impossible to post links, because of database type site]...

but here goes...please read and I can show you how to search real quick and then have all the links :peace:
 

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Abiqua

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On Dr Dukes page...

http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/

Look for this link...4th down under Plant Searches
List chemicals and activities for a plant.
or paste this
http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub/xsql/duke/listsp.xsql

and type dandelion....
[This will give you what I attached a pdf of..]
A pretty thorough mineral analysis of dandelion done in ppm....Little reminder 10,000ppm equals 1% concentration and 100,000 is 10% so forth..just handy to be reminded when reading these sheets, because there is a LOT!

Another note right at top is this little link easy to miss....
Number of distinct activities for species = 653. [View activities]

Using this database, they seemingly have thousands of plants with the same type of entries...I rarely cannot find a plant on this database....:peace: :joint:
 
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