Light airy buds... Why ?

WingAK said:
You know honestly I have also had airy buds until I decided to give a try to a 1000w de hps bulb. I don’t think in my opinion led of any brand or price will give you more dense buds than a good ol hps bulb it took me awhile to accept this as well, I figured with all the videos and how everyone talks about leds being so great.
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HLG 600 3000K, 50% - 55% RH, 11/13 light schedule, wk 4 flower, monitor ph "aim for 6 - 6.8", 7gal air pot, m3 soil, water every two days.15532037742367685314330653196978.jpg 15532038468877515701663745156485.jpg
 
WingAK said:
You know honestly I have also had airy buds until I decided to give a try to a 1000w de hps bulb. I don’t think in my opinion led of any brand or price will give you more dense buds than a good ol hps bulb it took me awhile to accept this as well, I figured with all the videos and how everyone talks about leds being so great.[/QUOTE
HLG 600 3000K, 50% - 55% RH, 11/13 light schedule, wk 4 flower, monitor ph "aim for 6 - 6.20190321_152106.jpg 8", 7gal air pot, m3 soil, water every two days. Strain - Strawberry Cough View attachment 4304354 View attachment 4304360
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Are you basing one plant during grow ? Or every time to all plants.
Because if it’s “ every time “ it’s your environment and or feed regime.

Reason I’m asking ....

1. Quantum lights are fine so check that off list .

2. 3000k ( slight bump in red ) or 4000k ( bump in blue ) either are fine and will flower fine.

3. CO2 .... pull that shit out .......

Running leds it won’t add much to grow .... ( because led grows ACTUALLY do better with higher ambient temps and if Temp too Low ... excess CO2 will work against plants .) HID , CMH grows do much better with CO2 and when ever your grow pushes 800 ppf or higher .
And at higher than say 800 you begin to plateau and return is disminished.

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Plants transpire better with proper temps. Leds grows I have to bump temps up to at a minimum 80° / 82°.

5. Not sure what Nutes you run or ppm , etc. ..... Koolbloom Is ok , but there are other PK heavy Nutes to try ....MOAB , HYDROPLEX , etc. Look into Megacrop for easy one nute line.

6. PH sounds about right .... 6.3 - 6.5 soil / but for coco i usually shoot for 5.8 ( hydro ).
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I used to be a fan of CMH "their great" but they pull more amps and produce more heat than led quantum chips. I use RO water in super soil and brew tea both made in my state. Working with various industrial and medical gasses I know that adding Co2 is a waste of time and money. As long as you have a fresh air intake into your grow that's sufficient. I hope that this adds some clarity. I'm just a novice but I enjoy growing and researching. Cheers!20181205_182531.jpg 20190204_161350.jpg
 
Bourbon 2 said:
I used to be a fan of CMH "their great" but they pull more amps and produce more heat than led quantum chips. I use RO water in super soil and brew tea both made in my state. Working with various
industrial and medical gasses I know that adding Co2 is a waste of time and money. As long as you have a fresh air intake into your grow that's sufficient. I hope that this adds some clarity. I'm just a novice but I enjoy growing and researching. Cheers!View attachment 4304493 View attachment 4304494
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My fellow Michigander. Go Blue!!
If you have questions and want down to earth answers PM me. Where in Michigan you at?
 
BurnzyBurnz said:
So my question why are my final buds turning out so light and airy ? When I harvest they look heavy and plump but after I hang dry it seems to be the opposite. The bud looks good, smells great and smokes well but it's not dence bud and very airy. Is this because I'm not using a CO2 system ? Am I drying incorrectly ? I hang dry til stems snap and or you hear the pop. Admittedly I have made small mistakes here and there in terms of temp control however even under optimal conditions I still end up with the same results. A bit about my setup... 3 plants under four HLG65 - (18-6 during veg ) - in soil (promix HP + additives. Perlite etc...) - Water @ 6.5ph. Feed as req. (Typically feed ever couple waters / once or twice a week.) - Osolating fan on 24/7 with exhaust fan running too. I buy my seeds from greenhouse seeds, Barneys farms, & Humboldt seeds. All feminized no auto. I also just did a batch in coir with the obvious adjustments in ph and feedings. Still the same results. I truly feel it's gotta be my drying technique... However I follow the steps correctly... 68F-72F, I keep my steady at 70F also I keep the RH @ 50% steady. Fan on, not directly at bud just enough to move the air around in the room. I also keep my exhaust on too. Completely dark. I wait til stems snap / pop and I jar. As far as I'm understanding I'm doing everything right but this can't be the case. Little help ? Any and all advice and or suggestions always appreciated. Cheers.

Also the further I read the more I think it's a lighting issue. But how ? HLG65 in a 2'X2' foot print... Doesn't make sense. Oh gezzz watch what happens in the comments because I mentioned lights. Fkme.
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I agree with T macc.

Strain related....

BUT, you could use better lighting for bloom then the 4 veg lights.... Those are designed for vegging...
Lighting and heat are the 2 biggest common reasons for airy buds.

Now think like this...Open, airy buds have more trich's. There is more open surface area.....
 
Bourbon 2 said:
I'm in ingham county, not sure how to PM on here..
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Once you can see the "LIKE" button on the bottom left of post's

Click on the person's name you want to speak with. In the mini profile that pop's up, there should be a line that says' "Start a Conversation" Click on that and type away.
 
Dr. Who said:
The only time you follow the VPD is when you use gas (Co2) otherwise your going to have a PM issue due to the high RH of 65% it lines out to use.

Simply run 45 or 50% RH and dial your feedings in for the strain that way. You'll be golden.
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What seems to have worked for me thus far is keeping at or near 50% RH in flower for a small 5x5x8 tent/environment. My temps average 78-83f. I have a 6" inline fan/filter for exhaust, no inlet fan just using the screened vents. The environment that my tents are in is climate controlled "basement". The RH levels average 55-65% in veg. I use same watering and nute schedule as flower. Again this is what has worked for me but may not work well for others who have different environments and setups. Cheers!
 
Bourbon 2 said:
What seems to have worked for me thus far is keeping at or near 50% RH in flower for a small 5x5x8 tent/environment. My temps average 78-83f. I have a 6" inline fan/filter for exhaust, no inlet fan just using the screened vents. The environment that my tents are in is climate controlled "basement". The RH levels average 55-65% in veg. I use same watering and nute schedule as flower. Again this is what has worked for me but may not work well for others who have different environments and setups. Cheers!
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Works for you? Good to go then!

For "me"? I would get my temps down to about 73 -75 F at mid level of the plant. Hold that, as canopy temps are going to be higher, so what.
My root zone should be about 68-71 F in soil...NEVER above 68 in hydro! Your risking severe root rot. Kills a plant dead overnight...

Cooler temps at the last few weeks..Something I'm testing on a bit right now.....Just a thought.
 
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