Light schedule for Auto's???

Doug Dawson

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Autoflower is a C4 plant and does not require darkness like a photoperiod does. Photoperiod is a C3 plant.

The more light you give it the more bud you will get.
Auto's and photo period plants are the same plant with the exception of the added Ruderals gene bred in to trigger budding without a light cycle change. Important things happen to plants during their dark period and as such should be provided. Both are C3 plants.
 

McStrats

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Auto's and photo period plants are the same plant with the exception of the added Ruderals gene bred in to trigger budding without a light cycle change. Important things happen to plants during their dark period and as such should be provided. Both are C3 plants.
I learned something. Thanks. I need to find the article where I read this...I probably misread, or misunderstood it.
 
I’m kind of late here, but with my environment, my autos seem to like 18/6-20/4 best. However, when the buds start getting some thickness, I’m forced to switch to 24/0 because when my lights went off my temperature would drop considerably, and the humidity would climb and develop “dew”. I ended up with PM on a photo period, so I started growing autos just for this reason. My grow space was small and I didn’t have enough airflow. I’m hoping that situation is taken care of now so I can grow some more photos also.
 

harrythehat

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Had these two in veg for 7 weeks nothin was happening except swelling bigger so i flipped and kept them on 12/12
they were the both the same seed yet two different plants towards the end the stump you see on the right was not finishing properly looked like the tops were dying out so it got the chop was getting low on supplies anyway.
the other IMG_20201224_060344_2.jpghave opened her up to finish of and given a bit of a trim
Gave up counting with 80+ heads not that big but she only had 12/12 which have been told affects the yield
But hey if i get 2 grams per stem its 160 grams LOL
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Had these two in veg for 7 weeks nothin was happening except swelling bigger so i flipped and kept them on 12/12
they were the both the same seed yet two different plants towards the end the stump you see on the right was not finishing properly looked like the tops were dying out so it got the chop was getting low on supplies anyway.
the other View attachment 4776543have opened her up to finish of and given a bit of a trim
Gave up counting with 80+ heads not that big but she only had 12/12 which have been told affects the yield
But hey if i get 2 grams per stem its 160 grams LOL
looks like your lady on the right attempted to reveg or something of the sorts. are they DWC or do you just have em in a tote seperated?
 

harrythehat

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looks like your lady on the right attempted to reveg or something of the sorts. are they DWC or do you just have em in a tote seperated?
they were supposed to be both super skunk autos from seed stocker it didnt reveg it just started to die of on the top buds it wasnt bud rot they just started to die off. strange i put it down to genetics
no its not DWC its my own design NTT Nutrient Trickling Technique.
 

Oldreefer

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Not much argument that autos can handle all the light they can get....more yeild always makes us feel better and something to brag about....
That being said, there's those of us who've grown autos for years on 12/12 so photos can grow alongside and don't miss anything but the bills that goes with it. Growing in 3 ltr pots, I expect 3/4-1 oz per ltr of medium even with conservative feeding. Lighting is 55+ sq ft. Keep enviromental parameters in spec and 12/12 will amaze ya.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Not much argument that autos can handle all the light they can get....more yeild always makes us feel better and something to brag about....
That being said, there's those of us who've grown autos for years on 12/12 so photos can grow alongside and don't miss anything but the bills that goes with it. Growing in 3 ltr pots, I expect 3/4-1 oz per ltr of medium even with conservative feeding. Lighting is 55+ sq ft. Keep enviromental parameters in spec and 12/12 will amaze ya.
Any cannabis plant can be vegged on 24/0 light schedule, has nothing to do with auto's "handling it". There is negligible difference between a 24/0 and 20/4 light cycle but I can guarantee that there is from even 18/6 to 12/12 for autos.

That being said if you are running photos side by side there isn't much you can do, and the actual loss in yield isn't going to make or break a hobby grower.
 

Doug Dawson

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Tell that to the top auto breeders from 15' to just this year before getting real competition(Mephisto) as they run 24/0.
So what your saying is you dont want to know what plants do during dark cycle and just choose to ignore it. That's cool, your call. Feel free to not let your plants have their natural processes all you want. If you have plants you can do whatever makes you happy.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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So what your saying is you dont want to know what plants do during dark cycle and just choose to ignore it. That's cool, your call. Feel free to not let your plants have their natural processes all you want. If you have plants you can do whatever makes you happy.
So what do plants do exactly then during the dark period that is required?
 

Doug Dawson

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So what do plants do exactly then during the dark period that is required?
It's not required so much as beneficial. There is no arguing some use a 24 hr light cycle with success. Give this a read. There are other articles but this blog is ok for a few points.

 

PadawanWarrior

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It's unfortunate you had that issue, hope this thread helped you out. Sometimes things go sideways on these sites, don't take it personal. Most are here to help. The Auto haters are to be ignored. Growers should be open to all things and many grow autos. Keep at it and ignore those who are too dedicated to pushing their opinions as gospel, there are many routes to get to the watering hole.
Better add me to the ignore list, lol. I'm an auto flower hater kinda. Just like I'm a hemp hater in a way.

I worry about cross-pollination fucking up the future strains. We've been making weed stronger by crossing it with other awesome stuff, but that kinda goes the other way.

What worries me is that pollen can travel a long ways in the right conditions. I don't want hemp or autos ruining anything. Especially the landrace strains that have been growing the same for hundreds or thousands of years.


But I can see the attraction for using them. I actually have some that were freebies. They would make growing outside here in CO easier, but it just doesn't feel right to my crazy ass.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Auto's and photo period plants are the same plant with the exception of the added Ruderals gene bred in to trigger budding without a light cycle change. Important things happen to plants during their dark period and as such should be provided. Both are C3 plants.
Ruderalis has low thc levels. I don't see how that couldn't lower its potency. Autos always look more airy to me than photos in everyone's pics.
 

Doug Dawson

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Ruderalis has low thc levels. I don't see how that couldn't lower its potency. Autos always look more airy to me than photos in everyone's pics.
I don't disagree. THC will be lower when crossed with the Russian garbage for it's auto flowering traits. As for hating auto's, that's your call. I stopped growing them and switched to photos but will still be growing a few of them outdoors next year. It's beneficial here in Canada with short summers. That said there is no wild pot growing for them to contaminate anywhere near by. I do agree with keeping good genetics protected, I think most want that. I think the only real way to persevere genetics is for people to protect them. It's growers that will make the difference by protecting seeds, growing true strains and producing more seeds. Growing a few auto's should not change that but I do understand your concern. Protecting original strain genetics is important.
 
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