Teknik sent me some PC red and white Buddies, what a legend.
"One is heavy red called PC red. It is not like a normal red led, it has a very broad spectrum that I have custom made to get to those spots normal leds just don't reach such as 680mm and 700nm"
"The other is a CRI95 4000k white which is just a kick arse all round spectrum that is good from seed to harvest due to having a great deal of blue including Cyan which most don't and a decent amount of red"
and hes working on a sweet sounding blue