Lockdowns don't work.
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hanimmal
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My body is busted up from years of wrestling and playing football. I really wish the teacher that convinced me to start wrestling would have gotten me into math club or something at this point in my life. It was awesome in high school and college, but I am feeling it now.
edit: damnit! I didn't know what thread I was posting in lol.
Fogdog
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It's typical of science deniers to find the few scientists who hold opinions that agree with theirs.
All they do is find the few voices that disagree with consensus and then magnify their voices. It's a mendacious argument.
dandyrandy
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I worked with a Mr Cincinnati who had his hips replaced at 28. Myself I've just not treated my joints well. Arthritis has set in my back and knees. Old age sucks.
Rob Roy
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Conversely a majority of people ignore the "science" behind the idea that it's impossible to;
A) Delegate a right which you don't possess
B) Create an institution made up of people that first use offensive force in order to protect you from people who might use offensive force
SCIENCE!!!
CunningCanuk
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Just remember Bob, your rights won’t mean shit when you’re dead.
Unclebaldrick
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It doesn't matter if it is one out of a hundred or one out of all of them. The internet-fodder on both the left and right don't need much "evidence" to believe what they believe.
Rob Roy
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If you're living your life hiding from a virus under your bed, clutching a mask like a binkie, you're already dead.
Lockdowns don't work on free people. If the lockdowns are persistent enough the unintended consequences the stupid overlords never consider will cause a lot of death and suffering too. Maybe more than the virus.
Have you even considered there may be "convenient emergency agendas" being used to control people (human livestock) ?
rkymtnman
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if you look at a map of the US, you'll realize it was spread from all layover cities Denver, Dallas, Atlanta and Chicago before on to NY and vice versa.
jimihendrix1
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Outbreak poll: Most Americans favor continued lockdown
Only 12% of Americans say the measures where they live go too far
88% of Americans agree with Lockdown..
Regardless of what the conspiracy theorists say, only 12% of Americans DIsagree with the lockdown, and a huge majority also think the protesters are full of shit. Carrying their Confederate Flags, and Nazi flags, and firearms.
To me these people need to go back to Kindergarten, and start over.
People want the lockdown. Get over it.
Only 12% of Americans say the measures where they live go too far
88% of Americans agree with Lockdown..
Regardless of what the conspiracy theorists say, only 12% of Americans DIsagree with the lockdown, and a huge majority also think the protesters are full of shit. Carrying their Confederate Flags, and Nazi flags, and firearms.
To me these people need to go back to Kindergarten, and start over.
People want the lockdown. Get over it.
jimihendrix1
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Scientists say the vast majority spread it from NYC, from flights from Europe.
Wave of infections from New York travelers swept through US before city began social distancing measures |
MAY 07, 2020 | 10:02 AM
New York City’s coronavirus outbreak grew so large by early March that the city became the primary source of new infections in the United States, new research reveals, as thousands of infected people traveled from the city and seeded outbreaks around the country.
The research indicates that a wave of infections swept from New York City through much of the country before the city began setting social distancing limits to stop the growth. That helped to fuel outbreaks in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona and as far away as the West Coast.
The findings are drawn from geneticists’ tracking signature mutations of the virus, travel histories of infected people and models of the outbreak by infectious disease experts.
“We now have enough data to feel pretty confident that New York was the primary gateway for the rest of the country,” said Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health.
Other scientists said that they would like to see more samples before calculating precise figures. But they agreed that New York’s prominence in seeding the national spread appears to have begun in early March, two weeks before stay-at-home orders were put in place.
“New York acted as the Grand Central Station for this virus, with the opportunity to move from there in so many directions, to so many places,” said David Engelthaler, head of the infectious disease branch of the Translational Genomics Research Institute in Arizona.
The most commonly detected viruses tied to New York have a distinct genetic signature linking them to outbreaks in Europe. Those spreading from Washington state have a signature linking them directly to China.
rkymtnman
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but Trump said all those passengers were tested. LOL. maybe they had their temps taken but that's about it.
all you need are bands.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Is this the thread for snorkels?
jimihendrix1
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Models Project Sharp Rise in Deaths as States Reopen
An internal Trump administration report expects about 200,000 daily cases by June. The White House bars coronavirus task force officials from testifying to Congress without approval.
A Trump administration projection and a public model predict rising death tolls.
As President Trump presses for states to reopen their economies, his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of coronavirus cases and deaths over the next several weeks. The daily death toll will reach about 3,000 on June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times, a 70 percent increase from the current number of about 1,750.
The projections, based on government modeling pulled together by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases a day currently.
The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.
The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.
As the administration privately predicted a sharp increase in deaths, a public model that has been frequently cited by the White House revised its own estimates, doubling its projected death toll.
The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington is now estimating that there will be nearly 135,000 deaths in the United States through the beginning of August — more than double what it forecast on April 17, when it estimated 60,308 deaths by Aug. 4. (The country has already had 75,000 deaths.
The institute wrote that the revisions reflected “rising mobility in most U.S. states as well as the easing of social distancing measures expected in 31 states by May 11, indicating that growing contacts among people will promote transmission of the coronavirus.”
The projections confirm the primary fear of public health experts: that a reopening of the economy will put the nation back where it was in mid-March, when cases were rising so rapidly in some parts of the country that patients were dying on gurneys in hospital hallways.
On Sunday, Mr. Trump said deaths in the United States could reach 100,000, twice as many as he had forecast two weeks ago. But that new number still underestimates what his own administration is now predicting to be the total death toll by the end of May — much less in the months to come. It follows a pattern for Mr. Trump, who has frequently understated the impact of the disease.
An internal Trump administration report expects about 200,000 daily cases by June. The White House bars coronavirus task force officials from testifying to Congress without approval.
- Published May 4, 2020Updated May 7, 2020, 3:33 p.m. ET
A Trump administration projection and a public model predict rising death tolls.
As President Trump presses for states to reopen their economies, his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of coronavirus cases and deaths over the next several weeks. The daily death toll will reach about 3,000 on June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times, a 70 percent increase from the current number of about 1,750.
The projections, based on government modeling pulled together by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases a day currently.
The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.
The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.
As the administration privately predicted a sharp increase in deaths, a public model that has been frequently cited by the White House revised its own estimates, doubling its projected death toll.
The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington is now estimating that there will be nearly 135,000 deaths in the United States through the beginning of August — more than double what it forecast on April 17, when it estimated 60,308 deaths by Aug. 4. (The country has already had 75,000 deaths.
The institute wrote that the revisions reflected “rising mobility in most U.S. states as well as the easing of social distancing measures expected in 31 states by May 11, indicating that growing contacts among people will promote transmission of the coronavirus.”
The projections confirm the primary fear of public health experts: that a reopening of the economy will put the nation back where it was in mid-March, when cases were rising so rapidly in some parts of the country that patients were dying on gurneys in hospital hallways.
On Sunday, Mr. Trump said deaths in the United States could reach 100,000, twice as many as he had forecast two weeks ago. But that new number still underestimates what his own administration is now predicting to be the total death toll by the end of May — much less in the months to come. It follows a pattern for Mr. Trump, who has frequently understated the impact of the disease.