Lollipop

2absolute2purity2

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Sure, I once pruned quite heavily in the first couple weeks, the plants had been topped several times and were really out of control. A couple weeks later, the plants all hermied, lost the entire crop.

After reading on different forums, it seemed the consensus was wait at least the first three weeks to four weeks when the stretch is done, then prune the bottom third, less stress to the plant while it is stretching. That's what I've been doing ever since.
Outta the 8 weeks veg and then 8 weeks flower which weeks of the 16 total do you think its safe to trim?
 

Driver733

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Outta the 8 weeks veg and then 8 weeks flower which weeks of the 16 total do you think its safe to trim?
In veg you can trim/prune anytime, but I really only top 3-4 times and rarely prune anything other than the bottom branches until three weeks into flower.

The bottom sets of branches I will cut the week before I flip to flower. Other than that, I leave them alone until lollipop. I'm pretty aggressive about taking the bottom third of the plant, anything that will not be a fully formed flower. I hate larf.

The last week of harvest I will start cutting fan leaves to make it easier to final trim.
 

NanoGadget

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I don't care about em, but any time he's mentioned it's the same thing. Beetlejuice Voldemort Trump Canucks. Dingo ate my baby. Etc

Let's stop talking about him
I never mention the guy unless the person I'm interacting with brings him up specifically as a source of information. This is the case in this instance. It's unfortunate that the mention of his name is tiresome for you, but I'm not going to avoid steering someone away from a bad source of knowledge just because it's become popular to clown on the guy.
 

jondamon

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Outta the 8 weeks veg and then 8 weeks flower
Get that out of your head right now!

You’ll be wanting around 10 weeks of flowering if you’re counting your flowering time when you switch your lighting to 12/12.

in 13 years of growing I’ve never known a plant be ripe enough for harvest after 56 days of 12/12 unless there were some issues causing the early harvest.
 

StonedGardener

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Sure, I once pruned quite heavily in the first couple weeks, the plants had been topped several times and were really out of control. A couple weeks later, the plants all hermied, lost the entire crop.

After reading on different forums, it seemed the consensus was wait at least the first three weeks to four weeks when the stretch is done, then prune the bottom third, less stress to the plant while it is stretching. That's what I've been doing ever since.
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain ! I don't top my plants , but I'm assuming the effect would be the same. Thanks again !
 

blueberrymilkshake

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I never mention the guy unless the person I'm interacting with brings him up specifically as a source of information. This is the case in this instance. It's unfortunate that the mention of his name is tiresome for you, but I'm not going to avoid steering someone away from a bad source of knowledge just because it's become popular to clown on the guy.
Ive watched a few of his videos in the past, but I don't recall any bad information. I'm not saying you're wrong though. Some of his shit was fried, that's true.
 

StonedGardener

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Im a first time grower, but wanna ask ab this info, i seen mrcanucks on YouTube say that trimming the plant stresses it so he doesnt do it often. Wouldn’t it be best to trim as much needed each time but only several throughout the plants lifespan? Would be least stressful i guess and wouldn’t this also help reduce chances of hermies cuz of least stress?
Im a first time grower, but wanna ask ab this info, i seen mrcanucks on YouTube say that trimming the plant stresses it so he doesnt do it often. Wouldn’t it be best to trim as much needed each time but only several throughout the plants lifespan? Would be least stressful i guess and wouldn’t this also help reduce chances of hermies cuz of least stress?
Everybody has their own preferences. I always " lollipop " and remove unwanted leaves SLOWLY. I ( me) like removing the lower branches, no more than one, every two-3 days. I hate putting that energy into those limbs on bottom that grow very long with little yield. I'd like to see how the experiment is done........studies/numbers/process etc ....what factors
( qualitatve and quantitative) back up article referenced by Driver773. I believe it, I'm just curious....like to see all parameters . I've read tons of articles advocatingthe benefits of pruning. Fielder's choice !
 

StonedGardener

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I don't cut anything for the first 3 weeks in flower, then lollipop the bottom third.
Thanks again, I'm just so curious about the experiments they ran to determine ill-effects of lollipoping pre-flower..............yield, compound(s) concentration? So many opinions....but hard data I like.
 

StonedGardener

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Why?

if your plant is healthy it will withstand it.
Haven't people...gardeners, farmers trim and pruned forever for better yields ? I'm sure the plant will withstand it, but does it "like" it. I just like a gentler touch......let a cut seal over before I whack another one. I'm no wunderkind.....still ignorant about certain issues decades later. , I really enjoy members, like Driver 733 and others who respond with a very congenial , enlightening response. Doesn't always go like that. Thanks a lot for your response.gotta dig into this even more.
 

Driver733

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Haven't people...gardeners, farmers trim and pruned forever for better yields ? I'm sure the plant will withstand it, but does it "like" it. I just like a gentler touch......let a cut seal over before I whack another one. I'm no wunderkind.....still ignorant about certain issues decades later. , I really enjoy members, like Driver 733 and others who respond with a very congenial , enlightening response. Doesn't always go like that. Thanks a lot for your response.gotta dig into this even more.
Thanks for your feedback. Try this video for more information:

It is an interview with Dr. Bruce Bugbee from the University of Utah, I don't remember if he talks about lollipopping in this video but it well worth watching.

I've been doing it for so long I really can't recall where I learned first.
 

StonedGardener

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Thanks for your feedback. Try this video for more information:

It is an interview with Dr. Bruce Bugbee from the University of Utah, I don't remember if he talks about lollipopping in this video but it well worth watching.

I've been doing it for so long I really can't recall where I learned first.
That was real nice of you ! Thanks for video, very good. There's always more to learn, for me..................I drink a blueberry /protein milkshake every morning......thanks again!
 

oill

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Switched lights to 12 12 a week ago. where do I stop lollipoping at? There is a lot of stuff under the net that I’m not sure will reach the net but I don’t want to chop just in case. Somebody pls let me know the general rule for this so I know where to cut and where to let grow. The two lowest branches aren’t even at the net yet so I’m wondering if I should chop all the small stuff growing on them
General rule... do it at day 21.... if you do it early you encourage the stretch
 
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