long flower, like 12 weeks, and new growth??? what yall think?

hey folks!

I have this plant, it was random bagseed. i vegged it for like 7 weeks, and it showed sex on 3-4-2010. now, at somewhere around 12 weeks flower, there is new growth coming out of the tops of the colas. it almost looks like reveg, but none of the other symptoms of reveg are present, like dying off colas, and nasty curled up leaves. will someone look and give me there opinion? i can tell you that the colas did start foxtailing in their mid-sections. thats what I thought it was, until some visitors of my journal warned of possible reveg. thanks for the help in advance, i know RIU will pull through!!

What is your trich situation? Is the plant close to harvest? It looks good and ready to me, but of course the trichs will tell for sure. I have had new weird single leaflets start growing out the top of my colas when I let them go too long in budding before.

Antigen said:

What is your trich situation? Is the plant close to harvest? It looks good and ready to me, but of course the trichs will tell for sure. I have had new weird single leaflets start growing out the top of my colas when I let them go too long in budding before.

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they are 75/25% coudy/clear, respectively. i thought it was about done several weeks back. some of the buds/colas have several brown hairs, but some are stocked heavily with white hairs still. she is a weird bitch, but aint they all. i have taken some samples, but the buzz is kinda heady and energetic. i didnt cure the sample, but that doesnt effect the high does it? i could chop some of it, and let the rest go, but i want a little bit of couch lock type buzz

I would wait for some amber trichs then if you're looking for couchlock. I know curing does do stuff to the potency, but I'm not sure if it changes it from heady to body or vice versa. The plant looks OK, I wouldn't worry too much unless it starts to look worse.

Are you giving it any Nitrogen? Maybe if you stop giving them any N it will discourage leaf growth. Just a thought I had, I'm not sure if it would even do anything.

is the area your flowering in completely light tight?
possibly light leaking in causing to reveg?

Scoobster said it right, light leaks would be the first thing to come to mind.

As for the curing changing the high, yes it will absolutely. I would let that thing go until you start to see the majority of the hairs start to turn color and recede into the bud. This is when you will know that your lady is ready to die.

I believe these folks are correct, when they're focusing on a light leak somewhere--- why else would your girl, restart new growth, unless there was a simple explanation.LIGHT coming in from somewhere unexpected--- even just a splinter of light during nite-nite time, will command that exact same response. This late in the game tho, I'd black-Box it for a week, and THEN go to countin' Trichs !
Good Luck--
Shoveldon

You've got a pretty strong indica there so the fact that your pre-sample was 'up' and 'energetic' means that she's not quite ready yet. A technique to get her to finish sooner than later is to shorten your light cycle by 30 mins per day which should trigger something in the plant to get her to finish up. Also, I second the light-leak comment.

i think i am going to put a web cam in there during lights out, granted the webcam doesnt produce any light. to try and determine where my potential light leak is. i have lowered the light to 11/13 over the past 2 days, cause I am out of bud and would like to get this process over with. maybe i might skip a night and take it down another 30 mins to an hour over the next couple of days.

thanks for all the comments and stopping by and giving suggestions.

gumball said:

hey folks!

I have this plant, it was random bagseed. i vegged it for like 7 weeks, and it showed sex on 3-4-2010. now, at somewhere around 12 weeks flower, there is new growth coming out of the tops of the colas. it almost looks like reveg, but none of the other symptoms of reveg are present, like dying off colas, and nasty curled up leaves. will someone look and give me there opinion? i can tell you that the colas did start foxtailing in their mid-sections. thats what I thought it was, until some visitors of my journal warned of possible reveg. thanks for the help in advance, i know RIU will pull through!!

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how many grams will be on this one plant? BTW SHE IS SEXXXXXYYYY. GOOD JOB MAN!!!!

Well I believe that curing does improve potency.while curing, the water particles in the bud leaves, and turns into more CBN and CBD a lot better overall high.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.
CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.

gumball said:

they are 75/25% coudy/clear, respectively. i thought it was about done several weeks back. some of the buds/colas have several brown hairs, but some are stocked heavily with white hairs still. she is a weird bitch, but aint they all. i have taken some samples, but the buzz is kinda heady and energetic. i didnt cure the sample, but that doesnt effect the high does it? i could chop some of it, and let the rest go, but i want a little bit of couch lock type buzz

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yes the cure does really effect the high. The thc and cannabinoids change and "activate" during the drying/curing process becoming the physcoactive chemical that will get you high. Big difference in pot that is cured and improperly or not cured. It will change throught curing if done properly.

raw225 said:

how many grams will be on this one plant? BTW SHE IS SEXXXXXYYYY. GOOD JOB MAN!!!!

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i think dry i will get about 25-30 grams, but i really dont know. i know dry weight is approximately 30% of wet weight, big loss huh!!

check out my grow journal for better pics, she looks even better!

you didnt answer my question man, i was asking about how many grams will be made off this one plant... just wondering, how much i'll get of each one of my durban poison plants. at least a QP?? you think

thanks

I did answer, read one more post up. I said 25-30 grams dried. I think you'll get a qp off of each of your plants, but it is possible if there are no issues and they have everything they need tp grow.

Antigen said:

I would wait for some amber trichs then if you're looking for couchlock. I know curing does do stuff to the potency, but I'm not sure if it changes it from heady to body or vice versa.

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When harvested some of a plant’s THC is in a non-psychoactive form. While slow-drying and then curing the non-psychoactive THC becomes psychoactive resulting in the maximum potency you can get from your crop.

It is simple enough to guess that the strain is predominantly sativa in that you are 12-weeks into flower and are clear/cloudy, and the more sativa a strain in the more the standard trichome color chart for harvesting does not really apply. A pure sativa peaks in THC levels right about when the trichomes first begin to cloud, when most are still clear. When you have mostly cloudy trichomes in something that is mostly to totally pure sativa you have waited a bit to long for maximum THC levels.

Being predominantly sativa you will not pick up much ‘couch-lock’ waiting for amber, and what you get will not likely be true ‘couch-lock’ due to high levels of CBD but instead be the result of THC that was lost when it oxidized and turned into increased levels of CBN.

homebrewer said:

You've got a pretty strong indica there so the fact that your pre-sample was 'up' and 'energetic' means that she's not quite ready yet. A technique to get her to finish sooner than later is to shorten your light cycle by 30 mins per day which should trigger something in the plant to get her to finish up. Also, I second the light-leak comment.

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Ok .. lets Encyclopedia Brown this bitch a bit …. The plants have been flowering for 12 weeks and have only now reached the 75/25% cloudy/clear trichome stage and the buzz is kinda heady and energetic. Some of the leaves in the pictures are half-wide but they are not big wide paddles … and you say; “You've got a pretty strong indica there.”

What points to the strain being; “got a pretty strong indica?” The flowering period that is roughly 3 to 4 weeks, or more, longer than strains that are predominantly indica or pure indica? Maybe the heady sativa-like buzz is the clue to the strain being; “a pretty strong indica.” Maybe it is the half-wide leaves and since they are not as skinny as the Crypt Keeper’s fingers so it can only be; “a pretty strong indica.”

Don’t you think it possible there might be just a tad bit more sativa in the strain than you are giving it credit for having?

From your pictures I was not capable of spotting what you called new growth. Without a before picture to go by I am not sure what is what you are calling new. Is it leaf growth? Is it growth as in upward/height? Is it parts of your cola seem to be shooting out new longer/larger buds from the older existing growth?