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Longest lasting/quality tryptamine synth?

high|hgih

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I tried 4 ho met all this week pretty much and it was really fun, however it didn't last very long. With all these RC's that seems to be pretty universal.

I want to know if there is a median of quality and quantity on a tryptamine in specific. Even regular ol psyilocybin lasts a pretty short time. Its always worth it, no complaints don't get me wrong. But Id really enjoy a tryptamine trip that lasts an extended amount of time, and has some quality to it as well.

The only chem out there that lasts forever is the DOx's , I tried DOI one time and honestly I just didn't like it, it felt too... Ehh.. Just too staticy.
 

MrEDuck

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The tryptamines just don't last as long as the phenethylamines can. DOB is the most recreational of the DOxs.
 

high|hgih

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Do you know off the top of your head if DOB is scheduled?

Its alright though, the tryptamines are so cool though.. I enjoy them more they seem to have way less of a body load. Though if you haven't gotten a chance to try 25c, its body load isn't near as bad as the other ones in my opinion
 

MrEDuck

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It's scheduled :(
I haven't tried the NBOMes because they didn't exist when I was doing RCs. I'm planning on doing some low dose tests with low dose DOI as an antiinflammatory in the bearish future. Apparently 5-HT2A agonists inhibit the protein TNF alpha which is a major cause of inflammation in autoimmune arthritises.
I don't really feel the need to try new stuff anymore. I like predictable experiences with substances I'm quite familiar with, and not that many per year. Give me acid, mushrooms or close analogs, mescaline, DMT, MDMA, or 2C-B over any of this basically untested shit. I know what I'm getting into with them and that I will have an enjoyable and possibly enlightening experience.
The only way I'm going to be interested in a novel structure is if it's more selective for 5HT2A than DOI. And that's for medicinal use at sub psychoactive doses.
 

high|hgih

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Thats been the realization that Ive been coming to recently as well.. Most of my RC use is out of boredom nowadays..

Thats cool though if it helps with arthritis. Im pretty young relatively and I can tell already that Im going to have arthritis pretty bad, make sure and tell me how that works for you!
DOx's are long lasting as well, the only problem with that though is they are just too... Like I said staticy. The amphetamines that is in there gets to my head(as it does always). Makes for interesting experiences, but it was kind of uncomfortable from what I remember.

Out of all the ones I have tried though I have to say I like 25c nBOME the best. If you ever get a chance, bored.. Try it, more than likely you wont be disappointing.

If only LSD grew on trees :(
 

MrEDuck

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Osteoarthritis and autoimmune arthritis are very different things. If you're young and experiencing joint problems already you should see a rheumatologist. Autoimmune arthritis (rheumatoid, psoriatic, ankylosing spondylitis, and on and on) can kill you, they're also caused by the immune system attacking connective tissue as opposed to mechanical wear and tear on joints from years of use. Without treatment my spine would eventually fuse together to the point where my rib cage would choke me to death. Not a really pleasant thought.
I doubt I will at this point. I certainly don't take psychedelics out of boredom anymore. I view them as tools that demand respect. I may not always use them for seeking knowledge, but I always plan their use.
 

testtime

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Wow. I'm gonna stop whining about my rare genetic disease that gives me a HINT of what you go through.
 

MrEDuck

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It is what it is. As much as I would have loved to have been born 25 years earlier I'm glad I wasn't because the modern treatments that can actually stop the progression of what I have came out when I was a teen and I didn't start having serious symptoms until I was in my early 20s. The biologics are truly miracle drugs.
 

testtime

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It is what it is.
You sound like my big brother. Usually right after he's knocked back some serious booze and downers to knock down his pain, since he's a corporate drone and terrified of showing positive on a blood test for anything else.

Gotcha. You balance.

I've often told my kids be thankful for being born in this century, because we'd be either be on the run or slaves in any other.
 

high|hgih

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Wow duck.. Thats quite depressing.. If you had arthritis where your immune system was attacking your joints would you get sick a lot also? Does the immune system attack your joints to compencate for not getting sick? How does it work?

I played soccer all through highschool since I was about 8 years old, now I hardly exercise.. I think that may have something to do with it.. I still do go out for runs, but I broke my knee a long time ago and its very hard to even go a mile.. I see a chiropractor every now and then when it gets unbearable.. But my neck, back, and hands are just.. All out of whack.. Funny I chronically popped those spots, still do, its impossible to stop.

How old are you duck?
 

MrEDuck

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Test you kind of have get to a point of acceptance if you live with chronic pain. I've made the decision to not use opioids except when the pain is really bad. Being on high doses of opioids chronically sucks for me. I wish I wasn't locked into an area without a medical program.
High, what it means is my immune system recognizes some of my connective tissue as being an invader and attacks it. Because the treatments suppress immune function (in order to slow the attacks on my body) I do get sick more easily. It's not much of a problem, I need to be more careful about not getting close to sick people and be conscientious about washing my hands. The worst part is that I was really active and did Kung fu and trained horses and had to give them up. Doing bag work makes me feel like I lost a fight :(
This started having bad symptoms when I was 24 and I'm 30 now.
 
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