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greenlikemoney

Well-Known Member
What's your excuse for posting here Cheezy? You get laid off?
Didn't you hear? He and Bucky are moving to Colorado. Buckys getting bankrolled to start his farm and start filling up the dispensaries with his "cat shit 'n piss swag".

Unfortunately, they forgot to read the rules.
 

El Tiberon

Active Member
You'll be starting at $11/hr in Massachusetts soon. A "value meal" will likely run you $9 instead of the usual $6 or 7. For $9 I can get a lunch entree with a beer AND table service in my $8 an hour state.

How many coffee shops, laundromats, clothing stores, delis, gas stations, etc. etc. are gonna be able to survive with this increase in labor costs? Another hit to the small business owner. Thanks, Democrats!
You really should research the world a little bit before you let your ass cheeks do your talking for you.

http://money.msn.com/now/post--where-mcdonalds-wages-start-at-dollar15-an-hour

[url]http://www.newser.com/story/172110/how-aussie-mcdonalds-pays-15-an-hour.html

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see4

Well-Known Member
You'll be starting at $11/hr in Massachusetts soon. A "value meal" will likely run you $9 instead of the usual $6 or 7. For $9 I can get a lunch entree with a beer AND table service in my $8 an hour state.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/massachusetts_senate_overwhelm.html

How many coffee shops, laundromats, clothing stores, delis, gas stations, etc. etc. are gonna be able to survive with this increase in labor costs? Another hit to the small business owner. Thanks, Democrats!
You tell only part of the story there bubble boy. McDonalds can afford to pay it's employees a reasonable wage.

McDonald's announced Monday that it raked in $1.5 billion in profits in the third quarter, up 5 percent from last year.
The number is strikingly close to the $1.2 billion taxpayers are shelling out each year to help pay public assistance to the McDonald's workforce, according to a report released last week by the National Employment Law Project.
The echoing numbers are simply a coincidence, but underscore the immense profits that the chain continues to pull in while its workers simply struggle to afford food, medical help and housing. The public assistance McDonald's workers receive comes via food stamps, welfare, Medicaid and other federal programs, according to the NELP report.

Then again, I could use your mentality and not give a fuck. I've never made $8/hr in my life. I make decisions on whether I should have a small Indian team do development for me rather than myself because I cost more per hour than a team of 3 keyboard bangers.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
You'll be starting at $11/hr in Massachusetts soon. A "value meal" will likely run you $9 instead of the usual $6 or 7. For $9 I can get a lunch entree with a beer AND table service in my $8 an hour state.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/massachusetts_senate_overwhelm.html

How many coffee shops, laundromats, clothing stores, delis, gas stations, etc. etc. are gonna be able to survive with this increase in labor costs? Another hit to the small business owner. Thanks, Democrats!
Your math is suspect, along with your hyperbolic reaction.
The increase is over 3 years...businesses on the threshold of failure will fail anyway, irrespective of subtle changes to labour costs.
Do you have any data on capital/labour cost structures for these "coffee shops, laundromats, etc." by which you can justify your fears?
Think about productivity and how it is calculated.
How is $1/hr going to affect it? Then consider the marginal propensity to consume for those actually earning that egregious increase of wage.
Do you honestly believe that people below the median income who are earning that wage will hoard the cash? :lol:
Now take that money and throw it in the hands of the well-off... what are they doing with it? Think hard on that one...

Those with poor management skills and an inability to adapt will be cleared out leaving extra business for those that remain, at worst. At best, this will help to tighten the GINI, while stimulating base economic activity (which was supposed to be the goal of all that "trickle-down" QE in the first place).

By any chance are you a Neo-Liberal?
 

BrewsNBuds

Active Member
Your math is suspect, along with your hyperbolic reaction.
The increase is over 3 years...businesses on the threshold of failure will fail anyway, irrespective of subtle changes to labour costs.
Do you have any data on capital/labour cost structures for these "coffee shops, laundromats, etc." by which you can justify your fears?
Think about productivity and how it is calculated.
How is $1/hr going to affect it? Then consider the marginal propensity to consume for those actually earning that egregious increase of wage.
Do you honestly believe that people below the median income who are earning that wage will hoard the cash? :lol:
Now take that money and throw it in the hands of the well-off... what are they doing with it? Think hard on that one...

Those with poor management skills and an inability to adapt will be cleared out leaving extra business for those that remain, at worst. At best, this will help to tighten the GINI, while stimulating base economic activity (which was supposed to be the goal of all that "trickle-down" QE in the first place).

By any chance are you a Neo-Liberal?
I was naming different local businesses we're all familiar with, which usually employ minimum wage workers. Gas stations, shops, laundromats. If your labor costs rise, your profits will fall unless you pass the cost along to the end user.

I want people to make whatever they can, working hard to the best of their ability. And I don't care what workers or restaurant owners do with their cash. I worry about my own business.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
I was naming different local businesses we're all familiar with, which usually employ minimum wage workers. Gas stations, shops, laundromats. If your labor costs rise, your profits will fall unless you pass the cost along to the end user.

I want people to make whatever they can, working hard to the best of their ability. And I don't care what workers or restaurant owners do with their cash. I worry about my own business.
Guy I'm all ready paying that. Not seeing your point. I still make off nice. I'm not filthy rich. but I do well
 

CC Dobbs

Well-Known Member
Holy shit, maybe it was a good thing I got banned.

I see the same names as before but it must be their children speaking now because holy shit do you people actually have a say in what happens in this country? CC let me use his name to post and he's goning to be pissed that I abused his trust by say that you all are pretty fucked up in the childish back and forth about nonsense routine. The OP is the first, but not the worst, inflamed dick to spew his poisoned seed. I'm gonna have a good cry for the future. Sorry CC but these people are disgusting.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I was naming different local businesses we're all familiar with, which usually employ minimum wage workers. Gas stations, shops, laundromats. If your labor costs rise, your profits will fall unless you pass the cost along to the end user.

I want people to make whatever they can, working hard to the best of their ability. And I don't care what workers or restaurant owners do with their cash. I worry about my own business.
you were specializing in unsupported, anecdotal failery.
 

beenthere

New Member
You tell only part of the story there bubble boy. McDonalds can afford to pay it's employees a reasonable wage.

McDonald's announced Monday that it raked in $1.5 billion in profits in the third quarter, up 5 percent from last year.
The number is strikingly close to the $1.2 billion taxpayers are shelling out each year to help pay public assistance to the McDonald's workforce, according to a report released last week by the National Employment Law Project.
The echoing numbers are simply a coincidence, but underscore the immense profits that the chain continues to pull in while its workers simply struggle to afford food, medical help and housing. The public assistance McDonald's workers receive comes via food stamps, welfare, Medicaid and other federal programs, according to the NELP report.

Then again, I could use your mentality and not give a fuck. I've never made $8/hr in my life. I make decisions on whether I should have a small Indian team do development for me rather than myself because I cost more per hour than a team of 3 keyboard banggers.
Whoa my little lefty friend, instead of telling half the story, you're telling the wrong story.
The majority of the McDonalds restaurants are franchised (privately owned) McDonalds corporate with the $billion profits you are touting, make that by charging a franchise fee (% of sales). The net profits and payroll from each individual restaurant has nothing to do with corporate, it's all on the private owner.

But being a business man yourself, you knew that, right?
 

echelon1k1

New Member
You tell only part of the story there bubble boy. McDonalds can afford to pay it's employees a reasonable wage.
Of course it can, but it doesn't have to nor does it want to. At the end of the day "burger flipping" is not skill.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
I was in a bad accident that had me pretty fucked up quite a few years back. Scared the shit out of the old lady. Told me never again. I tried buying a bike against her wishes only to find both tires flat EVERY time I went to ride. I gave up. She is an awesome wife so I'm letting her have this one FOR NOW !!!!
lol......FOR EVER!!!!!
 

Red1966

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[video=youtube;wJ93t6ucl4s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ93t6ucl4s[/video] Lets be honest here NoDrama, when you say "Liberals", you really mean black people. Why do you hold so much hatred for black people? Did you get picked on in school?
Pretty sure Londonfog ain't black. Dumbass.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
Living wage depends on were you live, so it differs. http://livingwage.mit.edu/ By my area I'm doing pretty good for my employees. Now if I was in a city like New York or LA of course I would give ( and could give) that cost of living bump. My argument is the minimum wage is not a living wage. Now to your question do I lean left. Guy I used to vote both parties or the best PERSON to do what I believe in. The Republicans have went so fuckin butt fuck crazy that I no longer can do that. I believe in check and balance, two or more parties should give you that...but like I said Republicans have took things to another level that I no longer can risk giving them my vote (certainly not on the national level ) Don't make the mistake of a closed-minded fool in thinking a man can't be conservative at the same time being liberal. [youtube]tqESAufUAMQ[/youtube]
Yet it was Democrats who just got rid of the filibuster. Yet it was Democrats, and only Democrats, who have asserted an unconstitutional veto power by the Senate Majority leader.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
who says I'm paying to support a family? I'm paying to support one adult..hopefully they smart enough to attend school so they can advance in life...you so concerned about me ..what are you doing in life ????
Poorly supporting one adult at that. To hell with their damn kids, eh?
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
You tell only part of the story there bubble boy. McDonalds can afford to pay it's employees a reasonable wage. McDonald's announced Monday that it raked in $1.5 billion in profits in the third quarter, up 5 percent from last year. The number is strikingly close to the $1.2 billion taxpayers are shelling out each year to help pay public assistance to the McDonald's workforce, according to a report released last week by the National Employment Law Project. The echoing numbers are simply a coincidence, but underscore the immense profits that the chain continues to pull in while its workers simply struggle to afford food, medical help and housing. The public assistance McDonald's workers receive comes via food stamps, welfare, Medicaid and other federal programs, according to the NELP report. Then again, I could use your mentality and not give a fuck. I've never made $8/hr in my life. I make decisions on whether I should have a small Indian team do development for me rather than myself because I cost more per hour than a team of 3 keyboard bangers.
LOndonfog can afford to pay his employees more, too. So you're one of those greedy corporations exporting America jobs? Typical liberal. Do as I say, not as I do.
 
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