looking for advice on flush period

Well it's been 50 days since I swithed to 12/12 and was wondering if it was about the right time to start flushing and for how long? First 2 pics are pineapple o.g. and the last is a og kush cross. I have a scope but it's hard for me to tell I have cataracts and can't see to good so any help would be appreciated

Look at it this way. Why would you put months of effort into feeding them properly, only to starve them when they are going to be working their hardest to produce for you?

Flushing is for toilets.

So does that mean I can feed them all the way up to harvest

major burns said:

So does that mean I can feed them all the way up to harvest

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Absolutely.

Ok how much longer would you guess is left I wanna try to catch my window

Most OG's finish in 7-9 weeks. You're looking good so far, but still have a ways to go. It's really a personal preference, but I like to chop right when I first start seeing amber trichs.

Pinworm said:

Absolutely.

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Do you still do a big "all at once" flush right before harvest? Or do you ride that pony into the sunset?

I've only flushed two plants, and for some reason, one was quite smelly afterward. I assumed it was the fertilizer I had been dumping into it lol.

xSwimToTheMoon said:

Do you still do a big "all at once" flush right before harvest? Or do you ride that pony into the sunset?

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Do not flush your plants unless it's an emergency. Like, if you spill a whole bottle of fertilizer into one of your pots, then take it outside to a hose, or even the bathtub, then use twice the amount of water than there is medium. 5 gallon pot? Then flush with ten gallons of water. But, again to be clear. Only in an emergency should you consider flushing.

Thanks dude.

The guy at my hydro shop was really pushing sledgehammer and telling me to follow the fox farm nute schedule, which has 2 flushes on the time chart.

It's nice to hear honest advice from someone with nothing to gain lol.

I have a difference of opinion. I prefer flushing, after way too many batches to be able to keep up with and experimenting with different ways I, and those around me, are thoroughly convinced flushed plants end up better.

So yeah, when I see the first few spots of amber under the scope without needing to move it around to find them, I flush.
I run a few gallons of fresh, clean water through them. At that point I let them dry out, might take 4-5 days. When they have dried out enough that they are getting ready for water, I put them in a dark room (without watering them) for another 3 days, then harvest.

althor said:

I, and those around me, are thoroughly convinced flushed plants end up better.
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Just better? Better how? Can you provide any information to support your claim?

althor said:

I run a few gallons of fresh, clean water through them. At that point I let them dry out, might take 4-5 days. When they have dried out enough that they are getting ready for water, I put them in a dark room (without watering them) for another 3 days, then harvest.

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If you can show me some kind of proof that a few gallons of plain water then a random period of darkness before harvest does anything to actually benefit my plants, as opposed to just making something extremely simple more complicated, I would really like to see it.

Pinworm said:

Just better? Better how? Can you provide any information to support your claim?



If you can show me some kind of proof that a few gallons of plain water then a random period of darkness before harvest does anything to actually benefit my plants, as opposed to just making something extremely simple more complicated, I would really like to see it.

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Same as you cannot show me it doesnt. So ah well, it is called an empasse, and I choose my way, you choose yours.
You may continue to choose your way, and ANYONE ELSE can choose other ways.

My flushed plants are better than my non-flushed plants. I have tried it 1000s of time and I feel there is a difference.

althor said:

Same as you cannot show me it doesnt. So ah well, it is called an empasse, and I choose my way, you choose yours.
You may continue to choose your way, and ANYONE ELSE can choose other ways.

My flushed plants are better than my non-flushed plants. I have tried it 1000s of time and I feel there is a difference.

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Ever hear of the placebo effect? I suggest you read about it. Flushing is for toilets.

mr2shim said:

Ever hear of the placebo effect? I suggest you read about it. Flushing is for toilets.

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Prove it?

Even if it is the "placebo effect" then I am fine with it, but considering other people have tested it without knowing the difference, I find it hard to be the placebo effect. Don't be mad that my bud is better than yours, you cant help it.

If you really want to test it (like I did) grow clones, flush one, dont flush the other. give a 1/2 quarter of each to your friends, without telling them, and let them tell you what they prefer.

If you're growing organic you wont need to flush anything. If your using chems, bottled nutrients (Fertilizer salts) Here is some advice, water until a little bit is coming out the bottom into the catch pan. Take a tds meter and test the runoff if your ppms are higher than what your putting in then you know your plants aren't using it and you have a salt build up. A while back I used some fox farm I had bestie blooms ,open sesame and chaching. My plants started looking like crap and and i couldn't figure it out. I checked my runoff and it was 1500ppm. Like pinworm said only do it unless you have a major problem. My advice to you is throw the chemicals in the trash and grow organic. Its better for you and better for me. https://www.rollitup.org/t/water-only.851064/

althor said:

Prove it?

Even if it is the "placebo effect" then I am fine with it, but considering other people have tested it without knowing the difference, I find it hard to be the placebo effect.

If you really want to test it (like I did) grow clones, flush one, dont flush the other. give a 1/2 quarter of each to your friends, without telling them, and let them tell you what they prefer.

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Your seriously going to sit there with a straight face and admit it's possible that you are deluded and just going on a feeling, then in the same post claim you've tested and proven your theory simply by collecting feedback from a couple of your shitforbrains friends? Don't make me lols.

althor said:

Don't be mad that my bud is better than yours, you cant help it.
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Go project your insecurity on to someone else, you deluded neckbeard.

If you're growing shit, you should probably flush.

Pinworm said:

Your seriously going to sit there with a straight face and admit it's possible that you are deluded and just going on a feeling, then in the same post claim you've tested and proven your theory simply by collecting feedback from a couple of your shitforbrains friends? Don't make me lols.


Go project your insecurity on to someone else, you deluded neckbeard.

If you're growing shit, you should probably flush.

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So for those unclear of what this post means....

"I can't prove it because it is not based in fact, so I will just start calling names because I am a pussy IRL and can hide behind my computer."

Do whatever you want bro, stop telling others what they should do.... It isnt your place to tell others what their preferances are even if you really really want to.

If someone asks how to flush, just tell them how to or shut up.
No one asked your opinion on whether they SHOULD flush, just how to.

I use riddle's boiling method. If your not familiar with it, you do a normal watering but with boiling water 3 days before you chop. This is for quality, not quantity. As to the why, here's a copied explanation from chuck estevez

the whole point of his process is FERMENTATION. the plant is full of glucose,sugars,starches. How do you make those ferment? Cut off the oxygen they receive. So, you come to the end and you are ready to chop, You pour the water on the roots, therefore, killing them, WHALLA, no oxygen getting to roots, said sugars etc, start to ferment. So the curing starts happening after about 3 days of no o2. And you will see the plant wilt after a couple days and change color, someone mentioned earlier about it being a pain to cut them off after doing this, easy solution, cut fan leaves off over that 3 day waiting period.

Basically just starts the curing process earlier to improve quality.

althor said:

So for those unclear of what this post means....

"I can't prove it because it is not based in fact, so I will just start calling names because I am a pussy IRL and can hide behind my computer."

Do whatever you want bro, stop telling others what they should do.... It isnt your place to tell others what their preferances are even if you really really want to.

If someone asks how to flush, just tell them how to or shut up.
No one asked your opinion on whether they SHOULD flush, just how to.

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You can't prove that it's beneficial in any way. And, you are angry. I get it. But, there is no need to be upset, little buddy. I like that you blast me for telling others what to do, and in the very next sentence try to tell me how I should relay my advice. Hypocrite.

mr2shim said:

Ever hear of the placebo effect? I suggest you read about it. Flushing is for toilets.

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I agree with this guy

And when in a public restroom I highly recommend using your foot to push the lever to flush