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dangledo

dangledo

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tip top toker said:
It would seem very illogical for such a large business not to suck up the cost of a few licenses and certificates for some of it's workers and do all the spraying and suhc themselves instead of contracting out at a huge premium, especially then considering the amount of land. Around where i live it's also the opposit in that the larger farms have all the equiptment paperwork and skills for anything, and they then contract their workers and machinery out to small farms to help with the harvests and all that lot.
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this is exactly how it is. not to beat a dead horse, I literally grew up within 100 miles of three of the biggest farms in the midwest. two are fortune 500 companies. all do their own work, and some( the small farms)
 
420God

420God

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The fields that are grown in still get sprayed but it's hired out to companies here. No sense in a farmer buying and sitting on all that equipment when he can pay a business that already has the licensing and equipment.

They still crop dust by me, makes no sense for a farmer to get a pilots license when he can hire someone that already has one.
 
dangledo

dangledo

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420God said:
The fields that are grown in still get sprayed but it's hired out to companies here. No sense in a farmer buying and sitting on all that equipment when he can pay a business that already has the licensing and equipment.

They still crop dust by me, makes no sense for a farmer to get a pilots license when he can hire someone that already has one.
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Its about long term. upfront cost are often compensated in a short time. Like TTT said, thats why you pay employees to run your equipment. so it makes total sense to do work yourself. These corn farms have air strips, for their own plane, so many planes that there are emergency landing tracts every so many miles.
So it would make sense for a SMALL farm, not big farms.

Ive been running a lawn care business for a decade or so. I got into landscaping shortly after. I contracted the same company three times, and rented, to do grade work before I laid my company on the line for collateral to buy a bobcat. Cheapest grade work move I made. Paid for itself in two years. although snow plowing helped more. Point is, its cheaper to DIY.
 
420God

420God

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Now you're arguing for big business. Makes sense to just employ instead of hire but where's the good in that.:-(
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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As to sitting on equiptment, well it's pretty simple business, he uses for what he needs, saves money from having to outsource, and pays off a bit of the cost, and then instead of sitting on it, well he hires it out, in the same way he'd have hired them in, and recouperates the money off that. Before too long, he's covered the cost, and he's now making profit.
 
dangledo

dangledo

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tip top toker said:
As to sitting on equiptment, well it's pretty simple business, he uses for what he needs, saves money from having to outsource, and pays off a bit of the cost, and then instead of sitting on it, well he hires it out, in the same way he'd have hired them in, and recouperates the money off that. Before too long, he's covered the cost, and he's now making profit.
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exactly, REALLY REALLY simple concept.
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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The colleges with major agricultural programs are big time too.

Clemson, Alabama, Iowa State, Virginia Tech, Kansas State U, Northwestern Illinois, basically...every single state has atleast one major college offering agricultural programs.

If you've ever done a road trip across America...it isn't very hard to see why so very many colleges cater to the farming profession.
 
Auzzie07

Auzzie07

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Anjinsan said:
The colleges with major agricultural programs are big time too.

Clemson, Alabama, Iowa State, Virginia Tech, Kansas State U, Northwestern Illinois, basically...every single state has atleast one major college offering agricultural programs.

If you've ever done a road trip across America...it isn't very hard to see why so very many colleges cater to the farming profession.
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Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa - Corn, corn, corn. My god I've never seen so much corn. 18+ hour road trip to Boulder, CO made me think twice about exactly how much corn we produce. With this being said, everyone should go rent/stream/download/buy Food Inc. It's and extremely compelling documentary about the food industry.
 
Beansly

Beansly

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So I'm gonna guess no...for the most part
First off, there are cow colleges (animal husbandry), I'm sure there's colleges for farming/agriculture. Probably somewhere in the mid-west united states.

Yeah that experience over books thing is all well and good and all... I just wanted to know if anybody out there actually had the book knowledge about how plants work and such. It would make cutting the forum folklore bullshit easier. I only went to community college for like a year, and I still haven't graduated, and I'm just saying; there are some things you learn in school that experience wont entirely explain. A little school is nice.

Anyways, I just wanna see if anybody had something,.
 
Auzzie07

Auzzie07

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Beansly said:
So I'm gonna guess no...for the most part
First off, there are cow colleges (animal husbandry), I'm sure there's colleges for farming/agriculture. Probably somewhere in the mid-west united states.

Yeah that experience over books thing is all well and good and all... I just wanted to know if anybody out there actually had the book knowledge about how plants work and such. It would make cutting the forum folklore bullshit easier. I only went to community college for like a year, and I still haven't graduated, and I'm just saying; there are some things you learn in school that experience wont entirely explain. A little school is nice.

Anyways, I just wanna see if anybody had something,.
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I see what you're saying, but all plants respond to things differently. I have Spider Plants in my house that I couldn't feed 1200PPM of nutrient solution every week, but cannabis could be fed that. Every plant is different, so as far as cutting folklore down, it probably wouldn't do much. As a botany major, I'd say they would probably teach you a lot about the very general biological functions for all plants, and not get too specific into one genus/species/phylum (I forget which one). And they especially wouldn't tell you about how to grow cannabis, which is all that really matters on this forum. Hell, I'd say a lot of the standard operating procedure that we all do for our plants was folklore at one time, then eventually someone had a hypothesis, tested it, proved it, and then products and techniques were created from there. It all starts with an idea, hence why most everyone on this board will tell you that the best way to learn is to start doing it, experiment with it, try some new things, and most of all, have fun.

EDIT: That made it sound like I am a botany major, I am not... I just phrased it weird.
 
Beansly

Beansly

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Auzzie07 said:
I see what you're saying, but all plants respond to things differently. I have Spider Plants in my house that I couldn't feed 1200PPM of nutrient solution every week, but cannabis could be fed that. Every plant is different, so as far as cutting folklore down, it probably wouldn't do much. As a botany major, I'd say they would probably teach you a lot about the very general biological functions for all plants, and not get too specific into one genus/species/phylum (I forget which one). And they especially wouldn't tell you about how to grow cannabis, which is all that really matters on this forum. Hell, I'd say a lot of the standard operating procedure that we all do for our plants was folklore at one time, then eventually someone had a hypothesis, tested it, proved it, and then products and techniques were created from there. It all starts with an idea, hence why most everyone on this board will tell you that the best way to learn is to start doing it, experiment with it, try some new things, and most of all, have fun.

EDIT: That made it sound like I am a botany major, I am not... I just phrased it weird.
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Awesome answer. Yeah, what you said about very general plant biology is kinda what I think is lacking around...here...no offense really, and I'm not singling you out. Judging by your tone, I'd say you seem like a rational person, a trait that I admire, especially on the internet where none of you people can physically touch me, yet some people talk like they can actually do - anything - to me. idk anyways, a deep grasp of the fundamentals of growing seems to be the one thing most of the questions have in common.
 
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