Looking for help w/ perpetual grow using "Grow Tents"

Jus got my card im legal in mi..

Wanna use the led supplier tents i found on
amazon.com to do a nice simple perpetual grow.
Only 4 plants max flowering..

Jus would like some ideas for best efficient equpment to use on how to set this up..

LED lights iam not sure about unless someone can direct to some lower priced ones.. As
Well as tell me why id be better off with them over hps\mh\t5

Thinking 400w digital hps for flowering..400w digital mh for veg?
then mother(from clone) t5 as well as another for clone if i need?

Then inline fans carbon scrubber oscillating fans ducting etc to figure..

Soil grow. Fox farm light warrior ocean forrest perlite mix @ 1/3 ratio 5 gal buckets. Nutes fox as well.

I do not have a budget. But dont want to overspend. Quaility and safety priority number one.

If you people could help me figure out how to get this setup as well as the cycle it would take alot of stress to me
As iam not willing to pay 4-6$ hundred on meds from dispensary every few weeks..

I'd go with 2 tents. 400W in a smaller 2x4 one for veg and 600 or 1000W in a large 4x4 for flower. Every 60 days you could harvest 4-8 huge plants.

in order to do a true perputual you need on big flowering room and 2 other rooms in veg as well as a clone room
its extremely hard work as i did it for a season and trust me its time consuming what i did was put 15 plants into flowering room and 2 weeks later placed another 15 plants in room every 2 weeks taking cuttings and vegging them as well taking more cuttings and vegging them to the point where you have almost 700 plants under flourescents cloneing and and getting ready for transplanting into 4" pots then in one room for a week or 2 then in next room then as 15 plants were done take them out of flowering room and place another 15 in pretty soon you getting harvests every 2 - 3 weeks but its a mofo
so in reality every 2 weeks your placing 15 plants in flowering room after flowering periods of 50 to 76 days strain depending and placing 15 plants every 2 weeks in flowering room
you will have around you will have a total of 110 flowering plants ) to maintain 15 plant harvests every 2 weeks think this can be costly ????? trust me it is and its gets you to the point where you almost say fck it its a full time job let alone getting caught with 700 plants in all stages of the game can i say 20 yr jail time lol

I'm building a 3 bucket perpetual harvest system using Dutch Passions "Think different" autoflower strain. With autoflowers lights are 18\6 throughout the plants life cycle so no need to worry about separate veg and flower tents . The strain finishes 75 days from seed. Even if I only yield half of what "Seymour_Buds" grew I'll have 6oz. every 25 days.

[video=youtube;_bIbGxFMZGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIbGxFMZGo[/video]

If you only want 4 plants at a time in flower you can do a perpetual of putting 1 plant in every 2 weeks. And I would go with a 600 watt lumatek in flower they are the most bang for your buck and in my opinion the best quality ballast. And for a hood I would go with a super sun 2 < they are just over a 100 bucks and have very good light spread with min hot spots or you could go no hood and do a bare bulb vertically in your room and have a plant in each corner. Valueline fans are good fans for the price get something slightly bigger than what you need and you shouldn't have heat problems. Also don't skimp out on your carbon filter that is the #1 thing that gives you away that and loose lips. A Can-lite 6 in should do the trick. I think t5's would be good for veg and since your only doing probably a max of 12 plants at a time I would just put a shelf on one end of the light and put your clones on that. Then right before you put them in flower take a clone off the 1 your about to put in.

lighting said:

in order to do a true perputual you need on big flowering room and 2 other rooms in veg as well as a clone room
its extremely hard work as i did it for a season and trust me its time consuming what i did was put 15 plants into flowering room and 2 weeks later placed another 15 plants in room every 2 weeks taking cuttings and vegging them as well taking more cuttings and vegging them to the point where you have almost 700 plants under flourescents cloneing and and getting ready for transplanting into 4" pots then in one room for a week or 2 then in next room then as 15 plants were done take them out of flowering room and place another 15 in pretty soon you getting harvests every 2 - 3 weeks but its a mofo
so in reality every 2 weeks your placing 15 plants in flowering room after flowering periods of 50 to 76 days strain depending and placing 15 plants every 2 weeks in flowering room
you will have around you will have a total of 110 flowering plants ) to maintain 15 plant harvests every 2 weeks think this can be costly ????? trust me it is and its gets you to the point where you almost say fck it its a full time job let alone getting caught with 700 plants in all stages of the game can i say 20 yr jail time lol

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Simply not true you can do a perpetual with almost any number of plants. I do a 32 plant perpetual adding and taking 4 plants a week and have a friend who does 2 plants a week harvesting roughly a 1/2 pound a week. Im not debating it not hard work just that you need a ton of plants to do a perpetual.

1 more thing instead of using a whole tray for 1 or 2 clones take a clear 2 liter bottle and cut it in the middle then take 1 of those inserts you put your rapid rooters in and cut out a square of 4 and stick that in the bottom of the 2 liter then you can fit the top of the 2 liter around the middle of the bottom as your dome to keep the humidity in and it takes up much less room.

dirtyglove said:

Jus got my card im legal in mi..

Wanna use the led supplier tents i found on
amazon.com to do a nice simple perpetual grow.
Only 4 plants max flowering..

Jus would like some ideas for best efficient equpment to use on how to set this up..

LED lights iam not sure about unless someone can direct to some lower priced ones.. As
Well as tell me why id be better off with them over hps\mh\t5

Thinking 400w digital hps for flowering..400w digital mh for veg?
then mother(from clone) t5 as well as another for clone if i need?

Then inline fans carbon scrubber oscillating fans ducting etc to figure..

Soil grow. Fox farm light warrior ocean forrest perlite mix @ 1/3 ratio 5 gal buckets. Nutes fox as well.

I do not have a budget. But dont want to overspend. Quaility and safety priority number one.

If you people could help me figure out how to get this setup as well as the cycle it would take alot of stress to me
As iam not willing to pay 4-6$ hundred on meds from dispensary every few weeks..

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how big do you want these plants to finish? you could use some t5s for veg, train them and tie them loose for flower or leave them tied. for 4 plants, id use a 400w or 600w hps, if your on a budget led's may not be an option, they're a bit pricey but in a few years that technology will be a little more advanced and hopefully affordable, till then id stick to HID lights. you can flower with t5s but your yield will be diminished. all depends how you wanna do it. as far as nutes go, you can go two paths. i always choose organics over chem nutes, dont let people discourage you by saying that organics do not yield well, they will yield just as much as chem nutes would, but chem nutes are more available since they are broken down enough, but they are salt based so they must be used in moderation or you'll see the effects in your product. flushing may be necessary as well. with organics, you cant burn them either, but you can give them too much of something.

also, we do have an outdoor season coming up so theres another advantage.

alright alot of responses im gonna do my best to answer all! appreciate them!!

ULMResearch said:

I'd go with 2 tents. 400W in a smaller 2x4 one for veg and 600 or 1000W in a large 4x4 for flower. Every 60 days you could harvest 4-8 huge plants.

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600w seems max for my area. could u explain how every 60 days i could harvest? thanks homie!

lighting said:

in order to do a true perputual you need on big flowering room and 2 other rooms in veg as well as a clone room
its extremely hard work as i did it for a season and trust me its time consuming what i did was put 15 plants into flowering room and 2 weeks later placed another 15 plants in room every 2 weeks taking cuttings and vegging them as well taking more cuttings and vegging them to the point where you have almost 700 plants under flourescents cloneing and and getting ready for transplanting into 4" pots then in one room for a week or 2 then in next room then as 15 plants were done take them out of flowering room and place another 15 in pretty soon you getting harvests every 2 - 3 weeks but its a mofo
so in reality every 2 weeks your placing 15 plants in flowering room after flowering periods of 50 to 76 days strain depending and placing 15 plants every 2 weeks in flowering room
you will have around you will have a total of 110 flowering plants ) to maintain 15 plant harvests every 2 weeks think this can be costly ????? trust me it is and its gets you to the point where you almost say fck it its a full time job let alone getting caught with 700 plants in all stages of the game can i say 20 yr jail time lol

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i dont want that many plants lol.. just 4 flowering at a time!!

cowboyjunkie said:

I'm building a 3 bucket perpetual harvest system using Dutch Passions "Think different" autoflower strain. With autoflowers lights are 18\6 throughout the plants life cycle so no need to worry about separate veg and flower tents . The strain finishes 75 days from seed. Even if I only yield half of what "Seymour_Buds" grew I'll have 6oz. every 25 days.

[video=youtube;_bIbGxFMZGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIbGxFMZGo[/video]

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i like this idea as it is simple.. could same results be achieved from soil grow? nice option ill think about but not TRUE perpetual cycle

NickNasty said:

If you only want 4 plants at a time in flower you can do a perpetual of putting 1 plant in every 2 weeks. And I would go with a 600 watt lumatek in flower they are the most bang for your buck and in my opinion the best quality ballast. And for a hood I would go with a super sun 2 < they are just over a 100 bucks and have very good light spread with min hot spots or you could go no hood and do a bare bulb vertically in your room and have a plant in each corner. Valueline fans are good fans for the price get something slightly bigger than what you need and you shouldn't have heat problems. Also don't skimp out on your carbon filter that is the #1 thing that gives you away that and loose lips. A Can-lite 6 in should do the trick. I think t5's would be good for veg and since your only doing probably a max of 12 plants at a time I would just put a shelf on one end of the light and put your clones on that. Then right before you put them in flower take a clone off the 1 your about to put in.

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wow sounds awesome man! thank you 600w eh? digital for sure if i did so doesnt get too hot.. would like to see a comparison to LED for that..so t5s in veg room but what light for mothers and clones?? and 12 plants total? u mean of flowering, vegging, mother and clones total? could u explain it a little more "novice" or detailed in this regard?

and can i just run one intake fan with ducting and a scrubber through out the rooms instead of using additonal inline fans and scrubs for each room?

crazyhazey said:

also, we do have an outdoor season coming up so theres another advantage.

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im growing 3 clones as we speak right now outdoor this grow setup is for one fall hits so winter comes i wont be totally without bud!

NickNasty said:

1 more thing instead of using a whole tray for 1 or 2 clones take a clear 2 liter bottle and cut it in the middle then take 1 of those inserts you put your rapid rooters in and cut out a square of 4 and stick that in the bottom of the 2 liter then you can fit the top of the 2 liter around the middle of the bottom as your dome to keep the humidity in and it takes up much less room.

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would love to see a a pic of this or tutorial seems cheap and efficient man thank you!

dirtyglove said:

wow sounds awesome man! thank you 600w eh? digital for sure if i did so doesnt get too hot.. would like to see a comparison to LED for that..so t5s in veg room but what light for mothers and clones?? and 12 plants total? u mean of flowering, vegging, mother and clones total? could u explain it a little more "novice" or detailed in this regard?

and can i just run one intake fan with ducting and a scrubber through out the rooms instead of using additonal inline fans and scrubs for each room?

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I dont know how big your tents/rooms are so I am just going by light size and if you can put a 400 watt in you room most like you can put a 600 watt in there. < Your 600 watt shouldn't warm your tent too much if you get a fan with enough cfm "Cubic foot per Minute" Your in detroit and have a card so as a patient you are allowed 12 plants at a time. If you want 4 in flower and to do a perpetual the easiest way is to put 1 plant in flower every two weeks so when the first 1 is done "8 weeks" you are putting in another 1. So after the first 8 weeks of flower you will be pulling out a plant every 2 weeks and at the same time putting in another so you always have 4 plants in flower. If you have 4 plants in flower that means you can have 8 plants for veg and clones since you will be putting 1 in every 2 weeks you can give them up to 16 weeks for cloning and veg time. < Now I doubt you will need this much time so you can do a couple things 1 is instead of taking 1 clone every 2 weeks you could take 2 and just put the best one in flower and kill the other or hold onto it till 2 weeks later which would bring your veg time down to 8-10 weeks. There are a couple other ways 2 but the main thing is that you have a plant ready to go into flower every 2 weeks a you never have more than 8 in veg/clones. And you take your clones off of the plant that is about to go in flower so you dont have to keep a mother you just take clones off clones. I hope this makes sense... Clones don't need much light in the beginning especially when they are trying to root so you can have them under minimal light I personally keep mine under 65k t8's for the first few weeks then put them under t5's. As far as your fans/scrubber I would need more info to know. But in general you usually only need to scrub your flower but you will still need to exchange the air in veg because your plants will deplete the co2. but you shouldn't need as big of fan in veg as you do in flower because thats where your plants are biggest and thats where most of the heat will be. Hope this helps.

Also just to give you an idea what kind of weight you could pull a 600 watt with an optimal grow should yield around a 1 lbs so when you get everything dialed in you could yield 1/4 lbs or 4 oz every 2 weeks.

Wow! That was very detailed man thankyou! Ill def be rereading that to make sure i fully understand..i wish i could figure out how to p.m u like grasscity has!

Soo for 12 plants total 4 in flower each 2 weeks apart. 4 in veg 2 weeks apart. And 4 clones?

Also i was thinking led but dnt wanna complicate this..

600w digital hps for flower tent 250-400w digital mh for veg and in same tent t5/t8s for clones?