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SkyDawg

SkyDawg

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I have some minor yellowing going on and I'd like to stop it as quickly as possible. They are in a tent with a pretty regular environment. I've been reading and can't decide what I think the problem is. I'm leaning towards my watering practices bc I'm so afraid of over watering maybe I'm underwatering? Or maybe my light was a little too close? I watered yesterday pH 6.4
 

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They are about 3 weeks old and I transplanted into FFOF last Tuesday. I started them in red solo cups with FFHF.
 
SkyDawg said:
I have some minor yellowing going on and I'd like to stop it as quickly as possible. They are in a tent with a pretty regular environment. I've been reading and can't decide what I think the problem is. I'm leaning towards my watering practices bc I'm so afraid of over watering maybe I'm underwatering? Or maybe my light was a little too close? I watered yesterday pH 6.4
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the yellow spots looks like the start of a P deficiency to me.

I would water it thoroughly cuz you dont want dry spots in your soil...add a lite feeding of nutes to give it a boost ...200 ppms...and add microbes to that soil to break down that crap to make it available to the plant.

Plants look good not much to do really
 
Ok. I've haven't soaked the entire pot yet. I have been just adding a little water around the base of plant to about edge of leaves every 3rd day or so...it's all documented in my journal. I've been scared to death about overwatering. Thank you for you're response man
 
bernie is right about watering the entire soil, but let it dry out pretty well before you water again. bernie is wrong on adding more nutrients. FFOF has nutrients as does happy frog. The tent is small, but it's an indoor grow with weak lighting, so maybe they will stay small. what is the white and black cannister? you would have done yourself a better turn if you had used more soil and larger containers so you wouldn't have to mess with a transplant later. Don't pH adjust water. It's not necessary. I don't know how people got on this kick of adjusting water. you only do that with nutrients in water, and even then it probably isn't necessary.
 
SkyDawg said:
Ok. I've haven't soaked the entire pot yet. I have been just adding a little water around the base of plant to about edge of leaves every 3rd day or so...it's all documented in my journal. I've been scared to death about overwatering. Thank you for you're response man
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The leaves are at the edge of your pot. That dry soil like that is kind of hydrophobic and needs to get water mixed in or it kind of makes channels and goes straight to the bottom
 
ahh hell here we go about crappy ffof and how it can grow a plant like its a miracle or something. Microbes need to break it down and make it available to the plant to uptake it.. That takes a minute. Not going to hurt anything to give it 200 ppms of nutes to give it a boost.

and add some microbes too.
 
The tap water comes out over 10 here so figured it was best from what I have read. The white and black thing is upside down bucket with oscillating fan on it. I'm just now waking up to start my day and lights will be going off in a couple hours I haven't peeked in yet but I did add some more water to the pots b4 I went to bed last night. I'll peek in before I leave for work and update some more when I get home 2nite. Thanks guys.
 
If you have a normal root system then you should never subject your plants to a wet/dry cycle, witness water culture which keeps the roots in a saturated nutrient solution all the time. Let a soil medium dry out too much creates serious problems - dry spots, holes and channels that will tend to shed not hold water.
Quoted from Uncle Ben.
I wouldn't add nutes to Fresh ocen forest either. My opinion
 
polishpollack said:
bernie is right about watering the entire soil, but let it dry out pretty well before you water again. bernie is wrong on adding more nutrients. FFOF has nutrients as does happy frog. The tent is small, but it's an indoor grow with weak lighting, so maybe they will stay small. what is the white and black cannister? you would have done yourself a better turn if you had used more soil and larger containers so you wouldn't have to mess with a transplant later. Don't pH adjust water. It's not necessary. I don't know how people got on this kick of adjusting water. you only do that with nutrients in water, and even then it probably isn't necessary.
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Do you use plain tap water? Man if so, this would save me a lot time adjusting the ph.
 
You think I would tell anyone to do that if I didn't? The plants outside my house grow just fine, but I never see mother nature pH the water.
bernie: water makes channels and goes to the bottom. microbes are necessary in a soil that is ready-to-use? Bernie, I've been reading your posts for a while now and I wonder where you get this stuff. Are you pulling this info out of your butt? What you have to say sure stinks. BTW, are you sure you're using the word "hydrophobic" properly? Dry soil is hydrophilic (water loving) if it's anything. I wouldn't worry about channels being made in soil. flood it with water, then let it dry out some before watering again.
 
So the outside soil was still dry when I got home so I saturated the soil. I think I may have gone overboard the leaves dropped pretty quickly like within seconds. I only got a little runoff though but don't think there's a need to water for a few days...it's my first time and I'm trying. It's fun my room has a nice smell lol
 

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polishpollack said:
You think I would tell anyone to do that if I didn't? The plants outside my house grow just fine, but I never see mother nature pH the water.
bernie: water makes channels and goes to the bottom. microbes are necessary in a soil that is ready-to-use? Bernie, I've been reading your posts for a while now and I wonder where you get this stuff. Are you pulling this info out of your butt? What you have to say sure stinks. BTW, are you sure you're using the word "hydrophobic" properly? Dry soil is hydrophilic (water loving) if it's anything. I wouldn't worry about channels being made in soil. flood it with water, then let it dry out some before watering again.
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Yes and Yes.

When I say dry, I mean bone ass dry, like in super duper dry, the driest of the dry.
Have ever watered soil like that. I didn't think so.


google is dry soil hydrophobic
google is dry soil hydrophilic

let me know what pops up.
Then let me know if dry soil is hydrophobic or hydrophilic, and whatever you say thats what its gunna be.
 
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So the outside soil was still dry when I got home so I saturated the soil. I think I may have gone overboard the leaves dropped pretty quickly like within seconds. I only got a little runoff though but don't think there's a need to water for a few days...it's my first time and I'm trying. It's fun my room has a nice smell lol
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if you can pick those pots up, you will feel the difference from when the soil is still wet or when it's dry. Always water the entire pot till a little run off. after watering,pick it up,feel the weight. do that everyday until it feels light.
 
Good decision to water thoroughly. If done right I think you'll have too much plant growth in a small space. but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
 
It's 32x32. If I didn't need the humidifier and had clip fans I woulda pushed 4 lol. I haven't peeked in since before I went to sleep last night I'm about to in a bit to see what they look like.
 
SkyDawg said:
I have some minor yellowing going on and I'd like to stop it as quickly as possible. They are in a tent with a pretty regular environment. I've been reading and can't decide what I think the problem is. I'm leaning towards my watering practices bc I'm so afraid of over watering maybe I'm underwatering? Or maybe my light was a little too close? I watered yesterday pH 6.4
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They look fine ... I would do nothing else. FFOF is fine alone , plants can and do get a “ little “ minor burn or yellow at the beginning
until it becomes accustomed to it. Nothing to stress about. Many growers goof up by “ adding more Nutes “ to an already nute laden mix. That soil mix alone can run a plant well into week 6 from germ ( strain specific ) with minor amending after that.

Bump ph to 6.5 - 6.7 ( FFOF is 6.3 ) this allows a “ range of drift ” so soil can compensate in case water is slightly off.

I would also try to keep any leaf from resting on soil too.
 
I'm gonna post some pictures in my journal later. I'm wondering if and when I should defoliate. The leaves are covering side branches and I'm not sure what to do. All I know is I want to maximize my space. And I'll raise the pH a little bit next time I water.
 
journal link? your profile limits viewing.
Don't defoliate. Think about transplanting into larger containers first, like 5 gallons, or maybe better yet, get a 20 tub from walmart, fill it with soil and water it. you'd have to buy the extra soil one way or the other. figure out how many dry gallons is in a bag of that soil, then you'll know how many bags to buy for your container size. eh?
 
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