Looking for strain advice,

wil2279

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Not consistent enough for rec sales I take it. Still going to play around though ty all for the feedback!
how bout cuttings from autos? Takes Forever to get roots? Or something else?
Photos keep growing under 18/6 light cycle so you can take cuttings and make clones. Autos don't rely on light cycle to flower... they flower based on age. You don't clone autos. This is why auto growers use seeds.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Yes, I see what your saying. Clones wouldn’t be very effective lol! Your pics look like they show some nice dense buds. Hard to tell the difference between those and photo variety buds once dried and cured? For those particular plants I mean.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Cheers! yeah they are good youll find what your looking for.

Yeah well with autos its very hard to find uniformity in strains but as autos goes they are realativly similar i grew 3 Creme de la chem x sour stomper and they all were very similar in growth looks and smoke and smell wise.. all nice i think maybe out of 20 beans popped i had maybe 1 runt but even that wasnt to bad.

Yeah they are very popular so you need to be fast but honestly you shouldnt be let down by anything, (p.s go for the new stuff!!! the strains used are from elites)
I will try to find the strains you mentioned Sounds like a great starting point.
 

jimihendrix1

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Though they arent Fems, and arent Auto..

Vashon Seed company has a strain called

EKI BIRD.

It is a super early version of what they call Early Bird, and comes from Super Sativa Seed Club genetics from the 80s and was also called M26.

EKI BIRD is an earlier version.

Is done in 6 weeks flowering. 42-45 days max.

JamesBeanCompany has 5 packs left. $50 a pack is also giving them away. Especially for the early flowering gene these have.

You could veg this stuff 30 days, and flower it for 42, and will be as early as most any Auto, and also a great yield, is really good, and highly mold resistant weed. Yield will depend on selection, and some of the plants are highly productive, and potent.





Early Bird (Super Sativa Seed Club) :: Cannabis Strain Info
https://www.bing.com/search?q=m+26+marijuana&form=ANSPH1&refig=6cbc1bd6e8924440bf72aab633f5498e&pc=U531&sp=-1&pq=m+26+marijuana&sc=0-14&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6cbc1bd6e8924440bf72aab633f5498e#
 

Paratwice

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Anyone familiar with Masonic seeds or Neptune’s seed bank. Both have Mephisto. Masonic has creme de la chem x Wilson? And Neptune’s has The Creme da la chem that is star dawg x chemdogging.
masonic is 12/$100 Neptune is 7/$90.
Input anyone? It seems either of these will yield dense buds but the question I guess is consistency within and between the two strains. For either of these Creme de la chem versions Is it crazy to think out of 40 seeds I’ll get consistency from 30 or better? I’m just looking for speculation. Any opinion is welcome. I deal almost strictly with photoperiod strains and always cuttings hardly ever seeds. So the world of shopping for seeds and strain hunting I’m not all that familiar with. I gather a lot of my strains through trading etc.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Though they arent Fems, and arent Auto..

Vashon Seed company has a strain called

EKI BIRD.

It is a super early version of what they call Early Bird, and comes from Super Sativa Seed Club genetics from the 80s and was also called M26.

EKI BIRD is an earlier version.

Is done in 6 weeks flowering. 42-45 days max.

JamesBeanCompany has 5 packs left. $50 a pack is also giving them away. Especially for the early flowering gene these have.

You could veg this stuff 30 days, and flower it for 42, and will be as early as most any Auto, and also a great yield, is really good, and highly mold resistant weed. Yield will depend on selection, and some of the plants are highly productive, and potent.





Early Bird (Super Sativa Seed Club) :: Cannabis Strain Info
https://www.bing.com/search?q=m+26+marijuana&form=ANSPH1&refig=6cbc1bd6e8924440bf72aab633f5498e&pc=U531&sp=-1&pq=m+26+marijuana&sc=0-14&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6cbc1bd6e8924440bf72aab633f5498e#
Cool I’m gonna look into that right nowty!!
 

Paratwice

Active Member
I’m shooting from the hip here. I ordered some Eki bird seeds. I am intrigued. Anxious to try them indoors. I found very general info. Not much detailed info on height and other growth habits or anything regarding indoor. No biggie! I can b ready for anything it throws at me ( I think ) lol!
planning on ordering a pile of the auto strain close as I can get to the one so kindly recommend here. I’ve never ordered so much is one seed from a seed company so this is all a new experience for me.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Did more research. The Eki bird Seeds I thought I ordered turns out they can’t take cards now. I’m hesitant about mailing a money order. I did look into some high yielding autos. Looks like good stuff. The super critical at 9-10 weeks? The gorilla glue #4, and Northetn lights x big bud.
I lost an entire batch of 80 cuttings so I am trying to fill the gap it will create by running auto flowers. I am looking for yield. Secondary to smell taste etc.
If they run great I learn something or
If they get effed up I paid to learn something
 

stashpot

Member
autoflowers do not hold consistency its impossible to create an IBL in autos because they are recessive in the crosses.

What you will find is plants that look similar (genotype) but vary in (phenotype) but no more than the F1's or s1''s photoperiods these days.

So again just to be clear you will never find a autoflower with 100% uniformity where all plants look exact same, but you will find all them will show the same (genotype).

To be honest its nice to grow 5 autos and they all vary but all have similar traits. The Creme de la chem is good its basically stardawg x chemdawg they have a few others that are good to. all the best.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Thank you for summing that up so clearly. I am hoping that day 20 seeds same strain would give me a general representation within the different phenos. Not all perfect, but enough where when it’s all mixed up and cured I will have a descent quality end product without an overwhelming amount of crazy variation. I anticipate that yes there will be some odd balls that just won’t fit in. I am prepared to weed em out. Otherwise as you say the Turpine profiles will be generally consistent as those are specific to the genotype correct? Then so the various phenotypes will contain the variations in growth and bud formation mainly? So a fluffy kinda bud still smells and tastes like the a denser bud because those and the like are characteristics of the genotype which is the strain basically. Am I close to grasping this????
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Omg I just read that last post. The gelato Rossini sokedmudt have kicked in without me knowing it lol! Sounds a bit confusing and scattered. Note to self : don’t post after smoking rosin. Haha
 

stashpot

Member
Thank you for summing that up so clearly. I am hoping that day 20 seeds same strain would give me a general representation within the different phenos. Not all perfect, but enough where when it’s all mixed up and cured I will have a descent quality end product without an overwhelming amount of crazy variation. I anticipate that yes there will be some odd balls that just won’t fit in. I am prepared to weed em out. Otherwise as you say the Turpine profiles will be generally consistent as those are specific to the genotype correct? Then so the various phenotypes will contain the variations in growth and bud formation mainly? So a fluffy kinda bud still smells and tastes like the a denser bud because those and the like are characteristics of the genotype which is the strain basically. Am I close to grasping this????
yeah exactly most of what you said is correct.. here's the thing not alot of breeders and seed banks produce true autoflowering strains stay away from breeders that dont fully work autos as a standalone, if they mainly sell photoperiods and offer like 1 or 2 autos stay away..
that included nearly everybody haha.. there is 2 that i know of who soley produce autoflowers.... autoflower portal and mephisto.. both of them i had good success.
Just grab a 3 or 5 pack they are really easy going and see what you find..
 
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