Lophophora Williamsii seeds in the US?

cindywhite

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Im trying to acquire some Lophophora williamsii seeds. I have yet find a website who is willing to send me some to the US. Does anyone know where to acquire these?
 

ROOSTERMAN

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Divine cactus has about the best prices around
http://divinecactus.com/epages/200c5f73-7ede-4f2d-ad56-1a1137b1521c.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=Categories

Earth alchemy has a great selection as well
http://www.earthalchemy.net/cacti.html

They also show up on places like ebay/amazon mislables as something like Astrophytum W seed's as well as whole plants

Czechoslovakia has a huge cacti culture you will find alot of vendors from their with translation services

Dont forget the pereskiopsis

Their are some great Trich hybrids floating around the past few years checkout
http://www.misplant.net/
http://www.trichocereus.com.au/
and of coarse sacred succulents


 
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cindywhite

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Doesn't it take like 6years for peyote to grow?
Yes lol. I figured I might as well get them in the ground as soon as possible. LUCKILY, the link that ROOSTERMAN sent, had the mature cactus with buttons that could be harvested. I guess they send the cactus and root in the mail. No soil or pot. I'm going to try it out if I can figure out how to order them.
 

Drowning-Man

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Yes lol. I figured I might as well get them in the ground as soon as possible. LUCKILY, the link that ROOSTERMAN sent, had the mature cactus with buttons that could be harvested. I guess they send the cactus and root in the mail. No soil or pot. I'm going to try it out if I can figure out how to order them.
Might be easier to just grow Pedro or Torch those grow super quick and can be bout in the USA
 

cindywhite

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Might be easier to just grow Pedro or Torch those grow super quick and can be bout in the USA
I've heard of those, but I've really been interested in the lophophora Williamsii. Plus I'm not sure how rare those cacti are, but I feel a sense of comfort having someone that's "endangered". I don't foresee it becoming extinct. Hearing how it is technically being endangered, and the lack of anything on the darkweb (besides hydrochloride extractions) I didn't think I would find all of this on the regular net. I actually found a better option on eBay for the plant. It was somewhat cheaper and easier to pay for. It's from Thailand. I haven't ordered it.. Yet. I'm doing more research on how it will do sitting in the mail fro 3-4 weeks. I have quite a bit more research to do actually, but I'm on the right track.
 

Drowning-Man

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I've heard of those, but I've really been interested in the lophophora Williamsii. Plus I'm not sure how rare those cacti are, but I feel a sense of comfort having someone that's "endangered". I don't foresee it becoming extinct. Hearing how it is technically being endangered, and the lack of anything on the darkweb (besides hydrochloride extractions) I didn't think I would find all of this on the regular net. I actually found a better option on eBay for the plant. It was somewhat cheaper and easier to pay for. It's from Thailand. I haven't ordered it.. Yet. I'm doing more research on how it will do sitting in the mail fro 3-4 weeks. I have quite a bit more research to do actually, but I'm on the right track.
Sure if it's about having it as collectable or novelty sure definitely want peyote but if it's about tripping then Pedro or Peruvian Torch is the way to go. They're not rare and easily to grow can even order dry powder easy enough. Extracting mescaline Hcl is pretty easy as well.
 

cindywhite

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Sure if it's about having it as collectable or novelty sure definitely want peyote but if it's about tripping then Pedro or Peruvian Torch is the way to go. They're not rare and easily to grow can even order dry powder easy enough. Extracting mescaline Hcl is pretty easy as well.
I'm not in a rush to trip. I really want to try it straight from the plant before I start with the extractions. Opposite from what I did (and most people) with DMT.
 

Drowning-Man

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I'm not in a rush to trip. I really want to try it straight from the plant before I start with the extractions. Opposite from what I did (and most people) with DMT.
Then you should order some Pedro powder online and make a tea. Peyote takes 6 years to grow and takes 7 dry grams to trip. But yeah, I had to extract DMT, harmalas, and 5-Ho-DMT my self as well.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I prefer Pharmahuasca or smoked DMT and harmalas dose is more accurate and no puke.
Never really purged as long as I filtered the tannins, personally. Cool, though, I'd try it. Besides, it's more the leaving your body and being shot across dimensions, space, and time and dying a million times that always unnerves me, not so much the puking. It's worth what you get from it despite the horror of it in the end, though.
 

Drowning-Man

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Never really purged as long as I filtered the tannins, personally. Cool, though. Besides, it's more the leaving your body and being shot across dimensions, space, and time and dying a million times that always unnerves me, not so much the puking.
Yeah that's why oral DMT slightly frightens me. You over do it and yet stuck in hyperspace for fucking hours. Smoking DMT and oral harmalas are like 1hr. After an hour you wanna keep tripping just smoke some more.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Yeah that's why oral DMT slightly frightens me. You over do it and yet stuck in hyperspace for fucking hours. Smoking DMT and oral harmalas are like 1hr. After an hour you wanna keep tripping just smoke some more.
Yeah, I prefer to limit my ceremonies to once a month. Takes a bit of stopping my knees from shaking to do it again, so I prepare a month between each. Like taking that "Fuck, look out below, bitches!" Breath before jumping out of an airplane. I don't have my wings, but I can imagine.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Ayahuasca and admixtures usually last about 2 hours regarding that dying and being reborn a million times Hell Part. In my experience, anyway.

I would go so far as to say it was the worst thing to ever happen to me second to war, and the best experience of my life at the same time. I have long talks with a God I never believed in.
 

Drowning-Man

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Ayahuasca and admixtures usually last about 2 hours regarding that dying and being reborn a million times Hell Part. In my experience, anyway.

I would go so far as to say it was the worst thing to ever happen to me second to war, and the best experience of my life at the same time. I have long talks with a God I never believed in.
What did he look like?(God)
 

Olive Drab Green

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What did he look like?(God)
Everything. More often, a woman. I was more focused on trying to control my soul without my body, because it's not something I'm fully used to yet. Mostly, I could feel its will. We conversed with more than words. Like, all senses blended, more than you even realize you have. It told me of the things that I let hold me back, but praises me for doing the things I've done that are good for my soul. It told me that it loves us all, because each of us is a small facet that makes up what it is in totality. That we are God experiencing this reality and its possibilities subjectively. We never die, we're never condemned. We just learn our lesson and are reborn. It wants us to be the best we can possibly be. Its love is unconditional. It wants us to identify with our soul, not our ego. And nothing matters, because we are eternal and total reality is so huge, and that's everything. We aren't important because we're here, we are here because we are important.
 
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