Lost all my clones. About to harvest. Risks associated with taking clone now?

karr

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Ok so i generally have one clone per plant that i save when i run a new strain so i can choose the pheno i like when all is finished up. I only do one as i generally have a 100% success rate in my bubble cloner as well i need to stay legal.

So this last round somehow my bubbler was disconnected and i lost all clones. So i am about a week away from harvesting the one particular plant i would love a clone of (ak48 with main cola the size of my bicep). So my options are i could chop and leave a little on it and re-veg the remaining or i could cut a low very undeveloped shoot and attempt to clone. The lowest branches are very underdevoloped as they received very little light, but there is still some micro buds apparent.

So which option will stress the plant(which would become a mother) least? The last thing i want is a hermie prone plant. The plant is an AK48 from Nirvana and the medium is soil.

So post up opinions and more preferably your personal experiences.

Thanks a ton!
 

John Jacob

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imo I would take a couple of those lower branches that are under developed.. its obviously going to take them a bit to turn back to veg and root but with some tlc that would probably be your best bet at this point..
Good luck!
 

karr

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Thank you for that post, very nice. Has anyone ever run into problems with a plant going hermie after revegging? i will sift through the entire thread you linked me, perhaps it is mentioned there but time is short at the moment.

thanks and rep for that :)
 

queenster

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I have had the same thing happen a couple times and i didnt want to loos the strain so i revegged three or four plants each time and made mothers out of them and i have had no problems with hermies. i have queen and white widow that have both been revegged twice. the clones off the revegged mothers seem to do just fine. i seem to have a hard time getting clones to root in the hot part o the summer but no other time and im not sure what it is. they are treated the same as any other time. in my opinion cloning from a flowering plant works but it take a long time to get roots and the longer they sit there rooting the more stress and more likely to have a bad start in life that may be bad at the end also. hope this helps and happy farming
 

karr

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Sounds good everyone, thank you all for the information and especially for the personal experiences. I have decided to do both haha. I will take two or three clones from this particular plant and put them in my bubble cloner at the time i harvest my plant, i will also leave some decent popcorn and fan leaves to hel the reveg process and just throw it in with my seedlings. If the reveg goes well i will have a nicely shaped mother with a healthy root system and the clones will be a step ahead in the game to keep the ball rolling. If for some reason either or fails i hopefully have a backup.

I am excited to save this pheno, of 7 plants (over time) is pheno is still fast growing and very hardy and has produced a main cola double that of its sisters in the same situation.

Ah and rep all around for some good responses. Thanks agian
 

sso

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humm, well id reveg too, but it shouldnt harm the plant to take clones too.

(the long time which the clones take to reveg and root, makes for greater fails (not a problem for a experienced cloner, normally :))

but id reveg just to make sure i didnt lose the genetics.

id roottrim 5-10% less of the bottom than the top (cut off 95% what you cut off the top) this speeds up revegging.

btw i have a plant on her 4rth reveg, its better than ever. (how it grows mostly, its not more potent, was allready mature the first time around)
 

karr

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id roottrim 5-10% less of the bottom than the top (cut off 95% what you cut off the top) this speeds up revegging.
Can you elaborate on this? The wording is a little confusing. Thanks!
 

bonjo78

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whn u harvest the plant remains with some leaf matter and all the roots , the plant cant sustain the need of roots and they start to die off in order to come in a ratio of roots / visible plant matter that can live , when it gets in that mode reveging turns a bit more dificult and u may even loose the plant of this , now idont recoon to cut so much rootmass as it may triger other stress , in general tho its good to just unpot the plant and cut the entire lower part od the soil about 1/4 to 2/4
 

karr

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Thanks once again for all the great advice. I am taking a few clones today, up to the legal number for me (not entirely sure how unrooted clones work, so staying legit). My bubble cloner has had some pretty fast turnarounds so we will see how that goes too.
 

queenster

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i made a mist cloner and have had no luck with it at all so i wondering if you could tell me what you do in yours to get a good turnaround? the only thing i can think to do at this point is get a timer so the mist is on for one minute and of for 5 minutes. otherwise i cant seem to get any good results from it. how does your bubble cloner work? is it a fish tank pump with a stone in the water that just bubbles up on the roots? pics?

Thanks once again for all the great advice. I am taking a few clones today, up to the legal number for me (not entirely sure how unrooted clones work, so staying legit). My bubble cloner has had some pretty fast turnarounds so we will see how that goes too.
 

karr

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Hmm a few months late, I didn't notice the question sorry.

My cloner is basically a shoebox sized storage tub, all dark black with holes in the too for clones. Inside the box i fill it with 5.5ph water, distilled or ro water. I have a small aquarium heater in the box that regulates the temp to 70 something, it has its own thermostat. I have two bubble screen type bubblesr. They are like 10inch bubbl sticks hooked up to a standard pump. These are glued down to the bottom of the tank.

The principal is when the bubbles from the bubblers hit the surface of the water, they break and splash tiny bits of water everywhere. The little bursts are hard to see, very small, but if you hold your hand there for a minute you can see how effective they are.

Very very simple, and i get 100% clone rate even with the clone i took from this thread. I actually took about 6 clones, but my ferrets broke into the room and did what they do haha.
 

golddog

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imo I would take a couple of those lower branches that are under developed.. its obviously going to take them a bit to turn back to veg and root but with some tlc that would probably be your best bet at this point..
Good luck!
Almost done flower and I had to clone them.
It took a few weeks but I saved the Pre-98 Bubba.
I took 3 lower branches.

Good Luck with your grow :joint::peace:
 

karr

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Lol the one clone that survived is a perpetual bud. It's been a 2 inch bud clone for about 2 months, ive moved on though, its now a bonsai project :)
 

uhavealighter?

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you can take it. ive done it before, but it will take a very long time for it to snap back into veg. and it will be one bush ass plant
 
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