Louie XIII OG in Dual Monster Plant System (3rd Scrog)
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Robert4budz
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Still preferr Stephie ! LoL .. Long time college. Second run on system went stellar. Still chill'n on the Pineapple Express !
Root screen seemed to increase yield (suspended just above water line).
Topping is beneficial .. shortens veg time exponentially. After 3rd node, top .. 4 colas .. streach to four corners ='s perfect screen fill !
Next experiment(s) .. increase aero psi .. and co2 delivery.
Flip those ladies already ! More density will mean more PM issues ... ?? ...
Keep the Monster fed bro !
Root screen seemed to increase yield (suspended just above water line).
Topping is beneficial .. shortens veg time exponentially. After 3rd node, top .. 4 colas .. streach to four corners ='s perfect screen fill !
Next experiment(s) .. increase aero psi .. and co2 delivery.
Flip those ladies already ! More density will mean more PM issues ... ?? ...
Keep the Monster fed bro !
lordjin
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Well hello, old chap. Long time indeed. Happy to hear that your growing adventures are going well.Still preferr Stephie ! LoL .. Long time college. Second run on system went stellar. Still chill'n on the Pineapple Express !
Root screen seemed to increase yield (suspended just above water line).
Topping is beneficial .. shortens veg time exponentially. After 3rd node, top .. 4 colas .. streach to four corners ='s perfect screen fill !
Next experiment(s) .. increase aero psi .. and co2 delivery.
Flip those ladies already ! More density will mean more PM issues ... ?? ...
Keep the Monster fed bro !
Okay, head-choppers, I promise to look into those techniques with my next grow. Deal?
Stephanie, yes. You'll be happy to hear that she's come out of 'retirement,' and we're gonna shoot again sometime soon.
Maybe I'll try to get Stephanie and Tiffany to pose together? None of them hot-shot photogs at Mayhem have done that.
lordjin
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I think I'm gonna let 'em veg a few more days before flipping.
The tops are coming up strong. I'm setting myself up for a major tuck job soon.
As far as the PM is concerned, here's the plan:
I'm going to give it an extra long sterilizing flush before flowering.
I'll get this sorted before flipping.
If you have a moment (and I know you do), get really high and listen to Abbey Road in its entirety. It's the first time I've ever done it. Awesome.
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The tops are coming up strong. I'm setting myself up for a major tuck job soon.
As far as the PM is concerned, here's the plan:
I'm going to give it an extra long sterilizing flush before flowering.
I'll get this sorted before flipping.
If you have a moment (and I know you do), get really high and listen to Abbey Road in its entirety. It's the first time I've ever done it. Awesome.
[video=youtube;OnPrDGg2hWA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnPrDGg2hWA&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
flowamasta
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ok Jin 
I see no turnin you around! 
I just hope you'll be able to manage height with that crazy ass strain when you hit the flip, they are still going to go crazy high... stretchy strain.... cough cough topping would also help with limiting your vertical stretch. ohh cough cough.
Is this your 12 ? 13th grow..... i cant remember exactly. I'll be keepin a keen eye here, while almost biting my lip hehe. You can save this post for future reference Jin
You must be a scorpio
I see no turnin you around! I just hope you'll be able to manage height with that crazy ass strain when you hit the flip, they are still going to go crazy high... stretchy strain.... cough cough topping would also help with limiting your vertical stretch. ohh cough cough.Is this your 12 ? 13th grow..... i cant remember exactly. I'll be keepin a keen eye here, while almost biting my lip hehe. You can save this post for future reference Jin
You must be a scorpio
lordjin
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Cancer, but with the recent astrological calendar shift, I'm something else... can't remember what. Year of the Monkey? Lol.ok Jin
Is this your 12 ? 13th grow..... i cant remember exactly. I'll be keepin a keen eye here, while almost biting my lip hehe. You can save this post for future reference Jin
You must be a scorpio
Hey, I've already been fearing stretch... you're scaring me.
flowamasta
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i only say this because your plants inhibit some similar characteristics to my mates amster gold, large leaves very crowded together, almost 'looks' like you won't get much, but flowering is always the shocker in his case, and he always goes too high and end up foxtailing.... he's not the kinda grower i would consider 'great' but he has some decent experience with indicas, his amster gold bushes out great during veg, really easy to manage but as soon as he hits the flower, things get crazy real quick, he does little scrog managing (big mistake) and 0% topping. very similar training to you except a much lager scaler and using a wire screen. His amster gold in flower seems to have a mild stretch during the first week, the flower sites appear and start to grow, height slows for a few days, then once buds start to fill they stretch again. He uses ALOT of light, so not a light issue here, i only see strain related growth as i see it EVERY time with this particular strain. I'm actually giving it a go next round
will certainly test my skills. Being a hybrid sativa mostly completely different growth from what i'm used to, but i looooove the smoke, it has enough of the BANG to smack you down, and not too much psychoness about it, i get sketch on some buzzy strains, and usually only like heavy hitters to balance me out.I know nothing about Louie so i could be way off, is anything remotely similar to something else you've grown? To me it looks very 'foreign'
2easy
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dont let em all freak you out too much jin you know what your doing. take a breath and chill its just another og you know exactly what to expect from her once you hit flip.
really who knows the og better than jin.
that said dont be frightened to top either it will stunt the tops momentarily but all the little nodes under your screen will really try and push there way up to make up for it. in the long run you will have a lot more tops.
really who knows the og better than jin.
that said dont be frightened to top either it will stunt the tops momentarily but all the little nodes under your screen will really try and push there way up to make up for it. in the long run you will have a lot more tops.
lordjin
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Right side lookin' strong.
Rollin' the dice without topping.
The weak side is getting there. 50 day veg?
The one thing that has prevented me from topping is that these PO OG clones grow like vines, leaving a trail of heads equal in size to her main head wherever she snakes. They're not so much a stout bush-like structure where that kind of topping would make more sense.
Rollin' the dice without topping.
The weak side is getting there. 50 day veg?
The one thing that has prevented me from topping is that these PO OG clones grow like vines, leaving a trail of heads equal in size to her main head wherever she snakes. They're not so much a stout bush-like structure where that kind of topping would make more sense.
lordjin
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If I had to to guess, I'll say it's gonna behave more like Tahoe one in stretch (Tahoe one stayed surprisingly low). Tahoe two stretched higher, but that was a different phenotype. The Louie resembles Tahoe pheno one much more, leading me to my optimistic outlook.i only say this because your plants inhibit some similar characteristics to my mates amster gold, large leaves very crowded together, almost 'looks' like you won't get much, but flowering is always the shocker in his case, and he always goes too high and end up foxtailing.... he's not the kinda grower i would consider 'great' but he has some decent experience with indicas, his amster gold bushes out great during veg, really easy to manage but as soon as he hits the flower, things get crazy real quick, he does little scrog managing (big mistake) and 0% topping. very similar training to you except a much lager scaler and using a wire screen. His amster gold in flower seems to have a mild stretch during the first week, the flower sites appear and start to grow, height slows for a few days, then once buds start to fill they stretch again. He uses ALOT of light, so not a light issue here, i only see strain related growth as i see it EVERY time with this particular strain. I'm actually giving it a go next round
I know nothing about Louie so i could be way off, is anything remotely similar to something else you've grown? To me it looks very 'foreign'
The only thing that really freaks me out is the appearance of a fuzz patch, however minute. Thanks, bud. I did install the screen extra low with the intention of foregoing topping, but you guys make a strong argument for it.
Edit:
Plus AZCANNAMAN has inspired me to start cloning, so I'm gonna start taking PO some of their own clones back to them at some point in the near future. That'll be the perfect time for me to start topping for added plant vigor. And I'll need all your sage guidance when I start.
Jin: "Hi, PO. It's Jin. I have clones for you... guaranteed PM free." Lol.
lordjin
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Honestly, I know you guys are right. These things are node factories and cutting just pisses them off and makes them make more. But I want to start building a cloning rig. With the vigor I have, there really is no need for a mother plant at all. I can conceivably just cut and cut and let the plant regenerate and regenerate. No root binding. This way, I could perhaps gift clones to other local growers who might be interested in this gear while I complete my budding cycle with little to maybe no stall at all. And maybe the gifted growers can nurture one or more of the clones I gave them into mothers and gift back a couple of cuts when my grow completes? And so on and so forth. Uh-oh, resembles Socialism.
flowamasta
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Is this some incentive? My newest clones. Going very strong. Healthy. 0% pm.
Fully rooted. ready to plant/top/flower/ you name it. 4.5 weeks old since snip.
Oh and it's easier than wiping my ass
ok thats really hard with a broken hand.
Fully rooted. ready to plant/top/flower/ you name it. 4.5 weeks old since snip.
Oh and it's easier than wiping my ass
ok thats really hard with a broken hand.
lordjin
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Yeah, no way these weak-ass PO OG clones can compare to that in vigor. Very inspirational. I can hardly wait to start cloning for the first time. Glad to have such an old hand around.Is this some incentive? My newest clones. Going very strong. Healthy. 0% pm.
Fully rooted. ready to plant/top/flower/ you name it. 4.5 weeks old since snip.
Oh and it's easier than wiping my ass
flowamasta
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the one at the very end isn't doing soo well, i tested my insect spray on one and its effects stunted it slightly and burnt some leaf edges even under low lighting conditions. It will come back but may just go in the garden somewhere. The 2 beauties will be for my 'Master' and the other nice one will be looked after in a large outside pot and i'm going to scrog it inside a mini 3 tier greenhouse
Crazy? maybe. Can it be done? hehe
2easy
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i think you should definitely be taking clones like flowa's look at those beasts. i know my next scrog run is going to be from the clones i took last night. i wont be needing them for another 8 weeks but im just going to keep em small under a fluoro and feed light until im ready. im pretty sure its going to cut my veg time in half by having such well established clones as opposed to growing from seed.
lordjin
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Yes. In your hands, I believe it can be done.the one at the very end isn't doing soo well, i tested my insect spray on one and its effects stunted it slightly and burnt some leaf edges even under low lighting conditions. It will come back but may just go in the garden somewhere. The 2 beauties will be for my 'Master' and the other nice one will be looked after in a large outside pot and i'm going to scrog it inside a mini 3 tier greenhouse
Next journal will be my first cloning venture. Absolutely. Waiting for that seedling to mature is for the birds.
lordjin
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Thanks much. Pix welcome.
lordjin
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Hey, the world seems like a place gone mad sometimes. So let's just take a moment to remember the things in life we really love. I do it all the time.
My God, look at the sharpness of that photo. Killer camera/lens. Super cute girl with big boobs holding my Venom helps, too.
My God, look at the sharpness of that photo. Killer camera/lens. Super cute girl with big boobs holding my Venom helps, too.