Low energy lighting (cfl/led) does it work?

OriginalGangstaKush

OriginalGangstaKush

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Yeah they are chilled lol, most people in the uk dont have a problem with weed and quite a few times i have been smoking on the beach and someone smells it and walks over to which im thinking oh dear gotta explain this now and they ask if i can get them some (couple of times this has happened when its been the most unlikely looking people aswell lol) but anyway they are chilled so can get away with it in my garden. Yeah i did think that dude but it gets light here before 5am so how can i taken them back out before sunrise, hmmmmm, well i guess it stays light til around 9pm at present, obviously deminishing daily, so i suppose i could bring that out at 9am, take them back at 9pm everyday, but i dont really trust myself to get this right, almost would like to have a timer which just switches on and off every 12 hours so i cant go wrong. i should have got auto flowering lowryder number 2 or something and i would be all done know smoking on some nice herbs, but you live and learn. Thanks for your help i think what i am going to do with this grow then just for the easiness is start to flower it pretty much now. tonight at 8pm i will cover them up or bring them inside and every morning at 8am will put them back in the sun. Will just have to cross the outdoor odour control bridge when i get to it, maybe an abundance of mint plants near by or a pile of horse shit will do the trick lol. Final question and probably a ridiculously silly one. Will i get the best bud and the best yields from an outdoor grow, obviously the yield will be higher, but can people get better results growing indoors than outdoors just because they have complete control over the enviroment etc. or are you always if you can better off growing outdoors? Thanks

KUSH
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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Thanks for your input rusko, think with this particular crop might just leave it in the sun and take advantage of nature, but when the season changes it seems that id be better off with a smallish hps lamp and perhaps some secondary cfl's for flowering, thanks for the help
 
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Rusko said:
Yea i agree with NOT using CFL for flowering.Ive been told by my brother that it gives u "popcorn" nuggets and quality isnt too good.IM USING BOTH HPS and CFL for Vegi.8 CFl 6 blue 2 red 150w HPS sunsytem light.....IM NOT EVEN sure if im doing perfect but hey MORE LIGHT THE BETTER-brother...hope it helps..GET HPS not just CFL for floweringgg...
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i agree that cfls are lame, but in a 3x3 foot space he wont have a ton of room, also he said venting will be a issue. i belive hps is the best way to get good buds, but if hes able to do what i advised in my last post he will get 10x more then anything he could hope for indoors. im not even joking, atleast 10x more.
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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Another thing actually, i have got alot of polythene sheeting and could easily knock together a structure and cover it in poly sheets forming a makeshift greenhouse, will trhis reduce the amount of lumens reaching the plant, the poly is basically transparent so im guessing probably not, also would act as rain cover as it raisn 155 times a year here, is rain water good to use? i suppose depends where it is from and what the composition of it is, i live close to the sea so could be salts etc that i wouldnt know about, so might be better to have some kind of polythene cover anyway, thanks.
 
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OriginalGangstaKush said:
Yeah they are chilled lol, most people in the uk dont have a problem with weed and quite a few times i have been smoking on the beach and someone smells it and walks over to which im thinking oh dear gotta explain this now and they ask if i can get them some (couple of times this has happened when its been the most unlikely looking people aswell lol) but anyway they are chilled so can get away with it in my garden. Yeah i did think that dude but it gets light here before 5am so how can i taken them back out before sunrise, hmmmmm, well i guess it stays light til around 9pm at present, obviously deminishing daily, so i suppose i could bring that out at 9am, take them back at 9pm everyday, but i dont really trust myself to get this right, almost would like to have a timer which just switches on and off every 12 hours so i cant go wrong. i should have got auto flowering lowryder number 2 or something and i would be all done know smoking on some nice herbs, but you live and learn. Thanks for your help i think what i am going to do with this grow then just for the easiness is start to flower it pretty much now. tonight at 8pm i will cover them up or bring them inside and every morning at 8am will put them back in the sun. Will just have to cross the outdoor odour control bridge when i get to it, maybe an abundance of mint plants near by or a pile of horse shit will do the trick lol. Final question and probably a ridiculously silly one. Will i get the best bud and the best yields from an outdoor grow, obviously the yield will be higher, but can people get better results growing indoors than outdoors just because they have complete control over the enviroment etc. or are you always if you can better off growing outdoors? Thanks

KUSH
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i dont know if its better inside or outside as far as quality goes, i think that depends a ton on where you live and who is growing it. i have heard some people that do both say there outdoor weed is better tho.

also, i assume your like most people and stay up after dark. if this is the case you can simply take your plants back outside before you goto bed and its naturaly dark outside =) as it gets to the point the sun is coming up later you can bring them inside later so there still getting 12/12 and at some point you wont have to even move them. this is really very easy to do (not being a jerk) just dont over think it. lets say you bring them in at 6 pm (or w/e time) then a few hours later your thinknig your ready for bed so then so you goto your room, see your plants, take them outside and goto sleep. then you only have to worry bout getting them inside in the first place. if you have a cell phone i advise an alarm but after a few days it will be a habbit.
 
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OriginalGangstaKush said:
Another thing actually, i have got alot of polythene sheeting and could easily knock together a structure and cover it in poly sheets forming a makeshift greenhouse, will trhis reduce the amount of lumens reaching the plant, the poly is basically transparent so im guessing probably not, also would act as rain cover as it raisn 155 times a year here, is rain water good to use? i suppose depends where it is from and what the composition of it is, i live close to the sea so could be salts etc that i wouldnt know about, so might be better to have some kind of polythene cover anyway, thanks.
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i would think the only thing rain would be effected by is the air as its falling. sence rain is formed by evaporated water that then condences and falls its basicly disstilled. that means all impuritys are removed. i would say 99% of rain water is safe unless your weather chanal says "BEWARE ACID RAIN"
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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I must be high on this kush dude or i would of thought of that, lol props to you, you are so right, very easy to do, am always around when it gets dark, and i got the sunrise times online here so know when i need to bring them indoors every evening then just pop them back out whens its dark again, good call bud, well its a no brainer then i will do that for this particular grow, then i think i will start on some indoor autos with the method you suggested, think maybe 3 at a time if they are only small under a hps light, 18 hours a day. You really helped me with this man, just gonna do what you say, because on the packet it said 140 grams/m2 indoors and 900 grams/m2 outdoor, which would be a pretty impressive yield, got 5 at the moment, depends how many females but could be supplied for quite some time if it all goes well :) thanks again

Kush
 
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no problem bro =) im happy i was able to solve the problem for you.

also since your new be sure to + rep people that you learn from or w/e. im not asking for rep or anything just for future referance as im sure theres alot of people your going to get help from that deserve the rep.
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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Not sure if you realised but i gave you good rep about an hour ago :) lol also sent a friend request to u, yh u are absolutely right about the rain water aswell, i've got an iq of 140 yet im lacking in some serious common sense! im only 21 though so it will come with age! What i think i will do then is catch rain when it falls to give save and give to the plants when its dry, this can only be good for it, will check the ph of the water first just in case. To be fair i havnt really done much with this grow, germinated the seeds a couple of months ago, but them in pots, put them on the window sill for a few days then straight outside, they have got some seriously strong stems now. All i have given it is water and 2 or 3 times i have it some urine mixed 1 part with 10 parts water (they are outside so it doesnt matter, although i know about 100 people will say its disgusting, but im all about organics, and its sterile and good for nitrogen which i have read is good for vegetation. I will begin flowring this evening i have set an alarm for 5.04pm (the sun rose at 5.04 today) (im still awake) (Dont know why) lol. Do you reccomend me giving the plant anything in particular, have heard that tomato feed is ideal, also cow/chicken shit pellets etc. would rather go organic because i think there is less that can go wrong. I will take some pics soon and post them, will let you know when i have done, guess i cant put it in this section or the admins will get angry. Will be cool when i start to see the beginnings of flowers, just hope that they arent all males, would break my little heart lol, thanks again bud and happy tokin

KUSH
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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i would quite like to see some pics of buds grown using just cfl lights, if anyone has done this and could post some for me with the set ups that they used that would be brilliant, thanks

OG KUSH
 
zem

zem

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HPS, you need HPS for flowering. this place is full of shit, people advising others to flower under led's LMAO and cfl's you need HPS to flower anything decent. HPS simply gives more lumens/watt than cfl's and less heat/watt as simple as that. this place could be misleading for a new grower. 3x3 is BIGGER than the space needed for 400watts. it's NOT a tiny space. hope this helps
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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Thanks dude, yeah it does help, have realised now than MH and MPS for flowering are the only real way to go if i want nice buds and good yields, kudos to you, thanks
 
12benji

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thats cool to hear something bout those l.e.d.'s!!! i will have to drop some doe and run a test! for tha last 10 years i have used nothing but 1000 wtrs, i used to veg w/blue then flower w/red but then hortilux came out w/those multi spectrum bulbs and they work perfect! at first i was concerned w/the lack of blue in them cause of a little extra strech but you jus hav to figure out how to use that to your advantage and shorten your veg time!! love and respect!!!
 
HookdOnChronics

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zem said:
HPS, you need HPS for flowering. this place is full of shit, people advising others to flower under led's LMAO and cfl's you need HPS to flower anything decent. HPS simply gives more lumens/watt than cfl's and less heat/watt as simple as that. this place could be misleading for a new grower. 3x3 is BIGGER than the space needed for 400watts. it's NOT a tiny space. hope this helps
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I grow with ONLY CFL's..... ONLY!

Now, would you like to see something 'decent' grown from a CFL? CFL's work fantastically if you KNOW how to use them! Here, check this out.

Here's a few of my plants, CFL's ONLY! In both VEG and FLOWER

Tell me again that nobody can grow something 'decent' with CFL's!

I will not argue with you that HID lights are better! Because they most definitely ARE better than CFL's. All I'm saying is, you can for sure grow some super dankidy dank with CFL's. IF you know how to use them!
 

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bud nugbong

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daaamn hookedonchronics that shit looks dank...im a fan of cfls myself, i guess its all about getting to know what thier about. but ive never seen shit like that. +rep guy
 
The Potologist

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Damn brotha, Impressive shit there Hooked!!! Rep+ for you all day on that. I assume those who state you cant grow "decent" bud with CFLS are just the misinformed. Bongs to you all day!!!

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 
OriginalGangstaKush

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That is some nice lookiing stuff, you have given me some much needed faith in cfl's, i guess as long as you control them and move them where you need them everyday then you can get really good results.
 
zem

zem

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bottom line, if your using 400watts of cfls you'd better go with a 400watt HPS, it will give more lumens and less heat. fluros are also better than CFL's and worse than HPS. you can grow under CFL's if you want but i will not advise anyone to grow with something less efficient. the guy's got 3x3 space, easily he can fit a 400HPS no need to hang 10 cfl's in there, just doesnt make sense except for microgrows. i was not saying that no one should use them, just not someone with a 3x3 space. if i had a microgrow then i would use one myself. actually i use them when i want to warm up my clones.
 
HookdOnChronics

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bud nugbong said:
daaamn hookedonchronics that shit looks dank...im a fan of cfls myself, i guess its all about getting to know what thier about. but ive never seen shit like that. +rep guy
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The Potologist said:
Damn brotha, Impressive shit there Hooked!!! Rep+ for you all day on that. I assume those who state you cant grow "decent" bud with CFLS are just the misinformed. Bongs to you all day!!!Peace, Love, and Happiness
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EXACTLY
OriginalGangstaKush said:
That is some nice lookiing stuff, you have given me some much needed faith in cfl's, i guess as long as you control them and move them where you need them everyday then you can get really good results.
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Yup! You just gotta keep the lights within inches of the top of the plant. That's why when growing with CFL's I believe it's VITAL that you LST your plants aswell as doing a modified sort of 'lollipoping' technique to them, to ensure maximum yield.

And THANKS for all the kind words guys! :) I do what I can with what I have.
zem said:
bottom line, if your using 400watts of cfls you'd better go with a 400watt HPS
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AGREED! If you have the money/room/means then HPS is mos-def the way to go!
 
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