HashSmoke420
Active Member
Folks, it's been a battle for me for about 3 weeks with a deficiency or toxicity and I think I've fucked up here and there a little bit on all places probably.
The actual signs:
Only lower, closest to the bottom leaves start yellowing from between the veins and from the end of the leaf to the stem of the leaf, no leaf is skipped in the process, so it progresses gradually to the tops of the plants.
The yellowing leaves feel soft and almost fully yellow leaves are very soft and look as they are about to fall but they still maintain strong connection to the main stem.
On some plants, some times before the leaves start to turn yellowing, their razor leaf sides curl downwards a bit and the leaves start to look paler than the rest, then the inbetween veins yellowing occurs.
Randomly over all the leaves on all plants, I see white-ish spots with very tiny black dots, doesn't look like rot, neither burn but it's super weird.
Here's the facts:
Growing techniques: LST - simply putting my plants to grow horizontally to save space and get better bud from all of the sides.
Plants current height length: 65 - 90 centimeters.
Strains: 1st - Purple Haze, 2nd - Blueberry X Skunk 1 X Lemon Haze, 3rd - Sour Diesel X Skunk 1.
Current life stage: Day 25th of Flowering. 22 days of vegetation in total.
Pot sizes: 6.5 Litres.
Nutrients used: Some natural Cow and Horse shit, Epson Salt, water rich of Sulfur and the local store's flowering juju which I fucking hate, but we'll get to that later.
Light: 400W MH 32 K Lumens + some natural sunlight when possible to promote actual flowering better than the MH.
- Growth seems a bit too slow, plants were put to flower just after 22 days of Vegetation and yet none had no singular preflower, it took them about 15 - 17 days to show full sex and identify the males from the females. Side branches are yet forming and has been forming slowly, but they are strong and thick and on most of them are already showing a few bud sites at 4 - 6 inches length. When the plants were put to flower none had a singular side branch but only 2 plants had began to show some pre-side branches.
- All plants show the same signs, just spreading and damage is slightly different.
If I've forgotten something, kindly ask and I'll add it asap!
Here's the history:
During the 10th to the 18th day some Nitrogen Deficiency - properly identified one occured and I had to deal with it, but did so successfully. - This was very similar to what I'm experiencing now but there's slight differences which worry me greatly!
At the start of the flowering I had some calcium deficiency, but dealt with it very successfully by adding some milled egg shells - works wonders!
The current issue now has been terrorizing my plants for about 3 weeks, I'm getting desperate on fixing it all by my own.
Current facts:
When I add some Horse & Cow shit they feel better for the next 2 - 3 days, but then it gets back and maybe a little bit worse and growth is promoted a bit.
When I don't add the local store fertilizer, growth slows majorly and plants start to look awful - thus why I keep on going with it.
Epsom Salt affected positively the problem for 2 days tops, then it got worse very rapidly - I added 2 grams of Epson Salt for 4 x 6.5 litres pots and mixed it into 2 litres of normal water.
My verdict on the case:
nitrogen toxicity - can show signs of deficiencies, once I added the local store fert, leaves began being more darker and as this happened it got about 2 - 3 times worse, the deficiencies.
Probability: 5
Rootbound - Perhaps they are rootbound and need bigger pots? In the end of the vegetative stage I had to transplant some of the plants faster as they were getting rootbound due to their bigger overall sizes. Right now, the smaller plants seem to have slightly fewer signs than the two bigger plants.
Probability: 4
magnesium deficiency - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 3
nitrogen deficiency - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 2
potassium deficiency/toxicity - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 1
And finally, the gallery:
The actual signs:
Only lower, closest to the bottom leaves start yellowing from between the veins and from the end of the leaf to the stem of the leaf, no leaf is skipped in the process, so it progresses gradually to the tops of the plants.
The yellowing leaves feel soft and almost fully yellow leaves are very soft and look as they are about to fall but they still maintain strong connection to the main stem.
On some plants, some times before the leaves start to turn yellowing, their razor leaf sides curl downwards a bit and the leaves start to look paler than the rest, then the inbetween veins yellowing occurs.
Randomly over all the leaves on all plants, I see white-ish spots with very tiny black dots, doesn't look like rot, neither burn but it's super weird.
Here's the facts:
Growing techniques: LST - simply putting my plants to grow horizontally to save space and get better bud from all of the sides.
Plants current height length: 65 - 90 centimeters.
Strains: 1st - Purple Haze, 2nd - Blueberry X Skunk 1 X Lemon Haze, 3rd - Sour Diesel X Skunk 1.
Current life stage: Day 25th of Flowering. 22 days of vegetation in total.
Pot sizes: 6.5 Litres.
Nutrients used: Some natural Cow and Horse shit, Epson Salt, water rich of Sulfur and the local store's flowering juju which I fucking hate, but we'll get to that later.
Light: 400W MH 32 K Lumens + some natural sunlight when possible to promote actual flowering better than the MH.
- Growth seems a bit too slow, plants were put to flower just after 22 days of Vegetation and yet none had no singular preflower, it took them about 15 - 17 days to show full sex and identify the males from the females. Side branches are yet forming and has been forming slowly, but they are strong and thick and on most of them are already showing a few bud sites at 4 - 6 inches length. When the plants were put to flower none had a singular side branch but only 2 plants had began to show some pre-side branches.
- All plants show the same signs, just spreading and damage is slightly different.
If I've forgotten something, kindly ask and I'll add it asap!
Here's the history:
During the 10th to the 18th day some Nitrogen Deficiency - properly identified one occured and I had to deal with it, but did so successfully. - This was very similar to what I'm experiencing now but there's slight differences which worry me greatly!
At the start of the flowering I had some calcium deficiency, but dealt with it very successfully by adding some milled egg shells - works wonders!
The current issue now has been terrorizing my plants for about 3 weeks, I'm getting desperate on fixing it all by my own.
Current facts:
When I add some Horse & Cow shit they feel better for the next 2 - 3 days, but then it gets back and maybe a little bit worse and growth is promoted a bit.
When I don't add the local store fertilizer, growth slows majorly and plants start to look awful - thus why I keep on going with it.
Epsom Salt affected positively the problem for 2 days tops, then it got worse very rapidly - I added 2 grams of Epson Salt for 4 x 6.5 litres pots and mixed it into 2 litres of normal water.
My verdict on the case:
nitrogen toxicity - can show signs of deficiencies, once I added the local store fert, leaves began being more darker and as this happened it got about 2 - 3 times worse, the deficiencies.
Probability: 5
Rootbound - Perhaps they are rootbound and need bigger pots? In the end of the vegetative stage I had to transplant some of the plants faster as they were getting rootbound due to their bigger overall sizes. Right now, the smaller plants seem to have slightly fewer signs than the two bigger plants.
Probability: 4
magnesium deficiency - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 3
nitrogen deficiency - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 2
potassium deficiency/toxicity - partial signs of this are shown
Probability: 1
And finally, the gallery:
I posted my lights too.