Lowryders not flowering after 32 days!

v12xjs · Mar 24, 2009

Just in case you feel like writing to seedsman about the problem I would suggest you don't bother. I have complained about him supplying wrong gender and wrong strain and have the mails to prove it. You will be reminded that what you are doing is illegal and pointed at his FAQ which states that under no circumstances will refunds or replacements be given.
Auto's do fine under 12/12. It's my understanding that ruderalis flowers under 12/12 just the same as indica and sativa so you wouldn't be doing anything the plant doesn't expect.

longlizard · Mar 24, 2009

Looks like nice marijuana, perhaps not autoflower, maybe the Santa Maria phenos in the fem version were not stable.

Jerry Garcia · Mar 24, 2009

riad said:
Slightly better picture here... is this definately a male here?

Yo, that last pic looks male for sure! like ready to bust male! It's harder to tell in the other pics, but the first one is male for sure.

Higher Education · Mar 24, 2009

I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not because I didn't feel like going all the way through and reading, but I am am pretty sure your plants have to be female or hermaphrodites because feminized seeds lack the genetic potential to be males. They come from plants that were stressed into being hermaphrodites and then they are forced to self polinate. This all may sound useless, but this means that your two remaining unknown plants have a 50% chance of being female as opposed to 33%. The odds are closer to your favor.

P.S. This all assumes your seeds were truely feminized, that I cannot tell you.

amcgin02 · Mar 24, 2009

v12xjs said:
Just in case you feel like writing to seedsman about the problem I would suggest you don't bother. I have complained about him supplying wrong gender and wrong strain and have the mails to prove it. You will be reminded that what you are doing is illegal and pointed at his FAQ which states that under no circumstances will refunds or replacements be given.
Auto's do fine under 12/12. It's my understanding that ruderalis flowers under 12/12 just the same as indica and sativa so you wouldn't be doing anything the plant doesn't expect.

I would loook into that autoflower on 12/12 question!!! I have used autos before and am currently flushing one now. Why Im going to tell you that you shouldnt use a 12/12 sched. on an autoflower plant, is that I just had this conversation a few days ago on an auto thread and it was concluded that you should not do this. I use 20/4, many others use 18/6, this is the way to go!!! Good luck to everyone.

v12xjs · Mar 25, 2009

amcgin02 said:
I would loook into that autoflower on 12/12 question!!! I have used autos before and am currently flushing one now. Why Im going to tell you that you shouldnt use a 12/12 sched. on an autoflower plant, is that I just had this conversation a few days ago on an auto thread and it was concluded that you should not do this. I use 20/4, many others use 18/6, this is the way to go!!! Good luck to everyone.

Here's 2 pics from my profile. the plant spread out through LST is an auto that was grown 12/12. The 2nd pic is a close up of 1 of the buds from that same plant.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/v12xjs-albums-case-work-progress-picture29542-crop-2.html

https://www.rollitup.org/members/v12xjs-albums-case-work-progress-picture29543-money-shot.html

Looks fine to me.

amcgin02 · Mar 25, 2009

You can do as you please, but to my knowledge they arent meant to be grown that way!!! Dont get me wrong they look good man, but I have heard lots of contoversy on this and not doing the 12/12 seems to come out on top the most!!! I would really ask an expert, just my 2cents!!! Good luck to everyone.

v12xjs · Mar 25, 2009

I've grown quite a few autos in my time as I grow in a pc case, but here's a quote from the Joint Doctor himself:

Grown under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield.
Taken from: http://www.lowryderseeds.info/index.html

So they can be grown under anything from 12 to 24 hour light.

Chronic Don · Mar 25, 2009

These are my plants the one in the middle is an ATA Tundra, since I'm under 20on 4off I plan on cloning it for outdoors. The four corner ones are supposedly Lowryder#2 (which I bought from a reputable place here in Canada) they came up about feb19th20th20th21st. Two have bunches of tiny leaves above 5th node so say 6th and bud? no hairs or balls yet. one is at 4th node and a set above (5th?)with bud on top and the smallest is above 3rd node with a set(4th?) above and bud? The "Bud" is a tight bunch of leaves coming out and is the starting of bud I thnik, the male didnt show his spunk until 34 days so these may flower in a bit. Also if I change my lights to 18on 6off to get them flowering quicker will it cause problems? I've read lowryder styles do best left at 20-4

Chronic Don · Mar 25, 2009

I plan on making my own femmed seeds. any suggestions on ways so I get as big a % females as possible? I'd of course like to plant the "many" seeds I hope to get from the four growing now outside in the end of may to mid of june to give me all females.
Any suggestions on ways to make her hermy and get high %females?
I know of one way and I plan to try, is to spray a branch or two with a 50ppm solution of gibberillick acid every 3 days for a total of 4 sprayings. But I don't know what it does to the seeds being females or hermies.

amcgin02 · Mar 28, 2009

v12xjs said:
I've grown quite a few autos in my time as I grow in a pc case, but here's a quote from the Joint Doctor himself:

Grown under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield.
Taken from: http://www.lowryderseeds.info/index.html

So they can be grown under anything from 12 to 24 hour light.

That doesnt mean that its good for them, the point to autoflower is to bud early, stay small descreet and hardy!!! Not on some 12/12 sched !!! If you grow autoflowers and 12/12 them, your defeating the purpose!!! Because when you live ina mobile home and run a 1000w, 12/12 shows up on the elec. bill like asore thumb!!! Alllowing the lights to run for 18-20 hours shows nothing. This is the kind of situation autos are made for. Good luck to everyone!!!

dirt clean · Mar 28, 2009

haha, he all, I am having the same prob.

dont do 12 and 12, I am sure you know, but it is fun to give advice. kill yeild.

think about it. we can get as much light as we can onto the flower and it will still flower! That means bigger buds. Light = buds, so go at least 20/4 is what I am thinking.

I am over day 25 and no sex. I switched form N teas to N and P teas for transition in my all orgnanic soil grow.

I also added my hps light. Also as an experiment and a power and money saving issue I went from 24/0 to 20/4 and I think they liked it. Maybe plants after do need some dark, but IDK.

I am seeing like you some tall dwarfs! Love the growth, need the bud. I am hoping for sex soon. As for phenos, 2 tall 2 shorter but all still hoping are fem.

good to see not everybodys flowers at day 20 and I got punk seeds.

amcgin02 · Mar 28, 2009

Thank you man!!! Everyone can always use a little support. Like you said, more light more bud!!!

Chronic Don · Mar 29, 2009

here are my Lowryder #2 plants. They are healthy vibrant plants its just not right tho that they haven't started flowering. they are from 36 to 38 days old.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/chronic-don-125174-albums-chronic-don-s-lowryder-2-attempt-picture825702-7thnode1-other-came-up-feb.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/members/chronic-don-125174-albums-chronic-don-s-lowryder-2-attempt-picture825703-7thnode2-plant-came-out-feb.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/members/chronic-don-125174-albums-chronic-don-s-lowryder-2-attempt-picture825700-5thnode1-my-smallest-plant-about.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/members/chronic-don-125174-albums-chronic-don-s-lowryder-2-attempt-picture825701-6thnode1-one-forefront-sprouted-feb.jpg

Anyone with ideas as to why they are taking so long?

They are under 20on 4off lights. Lights are 3x42w warm(red) cfl's 1x42w daylight cfl, 1x150hps in a 32 x 32in area. They are fed 5-20-5 bloomer at 1/4 strength.
room is cool was about 66f, roots at 62f, until last few days when temps are getting above freezing, now room is about 72f and roots are at 68f
And they are growing better now, I think I see male flowers on one, but its not time to sex yet. I hope to have sexed the two biggest by next weekend.

amcgin02 · Mar 29, 2009

You should see sex anytime!!! Check out this thread.. Dont know if this will help any, But good luck man!!!
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/171267-lowryders-not-flowering-after-32-a.html

v12xjs · Mar 29, 2009

amcgin02 said:
That doesnt mean that its good for them, the point to autoflower is to bud early, stay small descreet and hardy!!! Not on some 12/12 sched !!! If you grow autoflowers and 12/12 them, your defeating the purpose!!! Because when you live ina mobile home and run a 1000w, 12/12 shows up on the elec. bill like asore thumb!!! Alllowing the lights to run for 18-20 hours shows nothing. This is the kind of situation autos are made for. Good luck to everyone!!!

Calm down dude.
If you read the thread, my post was in reply to a question about what to do with auto plants that didn't flower and asking if it was ok to put them under 12/12. All I said was that it was ok to do that.
If you still disagree then post a link to explain why it's bad so they guy who posted the question gets the answer he's looking for.

amcgin02 · Mar 29, 2009

Hey man Im not getting worked up at all !!! Im simply giving out information as an autogrower and dissagreeing with the advice you gave, which we all have a right to do on this forum. I do also understand your point of view, if its not flowering put it into 12/12!!! Makes perfect sense, but like I said, that doesnt mean its good for it, but then again it doesnt mean its bad for it!!! No negativity meant by any of this, just a simple dissagreement. Good luck to you on your grow man!!!

trickster · Mar 29, 2009

i thougt the lowryder was spost to be one 20/4 cycle maybe i was wrong i been waitin im abuot order some lowryder diseal and some lowryder ak but what i been reading says to run them at 20/4 cycle i got my mid grade im finishing up now and at 1 and half flowering with 8250 lums

v12xjs · Mar 30, 2009

amcgin02 said:
Hey man Im not getting worked up at all !!! Im simply giving out information as an autogrower and dissagreeing with the advice you gave, which we all have a right to do on this forum. I do also understand your point of view, if its not flowering put it into 12/12!!! Makes perfect sense, but like I said, that doesnt mean its good for it, but then again it doesnt mean its bad for it!!! No negativity meant by any of this, just a simple dissagreement. Good luck to you on your grow man!!!

Cool. Thanks dude. You too.

SkatWill1227 · Mar 30, 2009

I found some information on another site that states that LR2 will stay in a psuedo vegetive state at lower temps increasing the growth but prohibiting the autoflower trait. It also states that it will flower sooner in warmer temperatures but stunt its growth.

My conclusion is that when growing LR2s we should veg in a cooler temp until they reach the height we want and then increase the temps when we are ready to flower. I will be increasing my growroom temps from 73 to 80 degrees for the next week. I will let everyone know my results. My 5 LR2s have just been showing preflowers for about 10 days and now im getting impatient. (Im at about 6 weeks)

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